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   Message 854 of 1,456   
   Ouisie to JimD   
   Re: The Gig from Hell   
   23 Nov 17 20:48:36   
   
   From: someone@anywheret.net   
      
   "JimD"  wrote in message news:2017112223332675680-email@nowherecom...   
      
   > How would a person go about deciding if people liked a song ?   
      
   The same way Elvis, The Beatles The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, and all   
   the others went about it!   
      
      
   > What  does the word " popular " mean ?   
      
   It means that something is well received by many, maybe even liked, and   
   sometimes even Loved.   
   But do remember that other factors are involved. For example, what kind of   
   'food' is *popular* with DUNG beetles, or flies, or Robotic Idiot Zombies?   
   That's an accurate analogy of what's going on where Quality is Ignored!   
      
   > How is the popularity of a song measured ?   
      
   Can you figure it out?   
      
   Okay, I know I'm telling some of my secrets here but so be it. It takes   
   Sensitivity on the part of the writer(s) and musician(s) - the  ability to   
   read the Love Vibe so as to be able to Generate it. Once that becomes a   
   regular practice, it's easy to know such things.   
      
   > I know a lot of band where what they play is based on the songs they   
   > listened to when in high school. And if they were guitar players, that   
   > amounted to what groups of their era had the coolest guitar parts.   
      
   There's nothing wrong with that IF it's done Right!   
   One of my primary songwriting techniques is to analyze what I Love about my   
   favorite songs so as to understand its various elements. I then use those   
   elements, along with many other factors of course,  in writing a song even   
   though what I write will be totally Original, it its beat, melody, chord   
   structure, etc., including the lyrics...and it works.   
      
   Here's another approach: Think *FRESH* when it  comes to Music!   
   Would you like to eat old, stale food? If not, then WHY would you  ever put   
   up with STALE MUSIC!!!   
   CopyCatfish Bottom-Feeding Losers playing STALE CRAP is what's KILLING   
   Music!!!   
   FRESH Music *WILL* become popular...IF, it's Truly FRESH!   
   Notice the Objective is Not to make something 'new', but something   
   FRESH...which will by default, be Genuinely New!   
      
   > but is doesn't establish the " beat ".  It might play on the beat more   
   > than not,   
      
   I think a better word woul be *initiate* the beat, something the drummer   
   usually does, although any instrument that might happen to start off the   
   song could qualify.   
      
   > but that would be like a rudder control on a plan that moved the rudder as   
   > expected most of the time, but not always.  How would that work ?   
      
   Scary! ;) I once flew a plane whose ailerons were out of rig and was it   
   twitchy on the roll axis - really kept me busy staying on top of its wild   
   responses, even with no aileron input on the yoke. Since it was a Cherokee   
   Warrior 150, with the "Mitchell wing", with it's outboard half leading and   
   trailing edge taper as opposed to the 'classic' Cherokee "Hershey bar wing",   
   with no taper, and I'm partial to Pipers, and that plane's responses were   
   very unbecoming of the Piper quality I'm used to, I quickly realized that it   
   was out  of adjustment - and the  instructor confirmed that by admitting   
   that it needed some 'dialing in' - a nice thing to hear when I'm over 5000   
   feet up and about to practice some maneuvers. It all went well but in that   
   condition, that plane sure was a handful to fly.   
      
   > How about if a group played the song as rehearsed ?   What would be the   
   > harm in that ?   
      
   If they could keep the tempo in rehearsal, then they should for performing   
   too.   
      
   > We know why.  What we don't know is how to move past him without drama.   
      
   Simple, hold him responsible.   
      
   > In music, at the level we work, playing the songs well is the thing. We're   
   > not a jam band, or some thrown together mashup of people who might or   
   > might care about the audience.   
      
   To me it doesn't matter what the occasion - playing well is still a   
   Necessity!   
      
   > Pilots " supervise "  ?   How's that any different than letting our   
   > computer play the correct bass line ?   
      
   If the aircraft's autopilot computer malfunctions, the pilots Shut it down,   
   but too often in other situations involving computers, they are given total   
   autonomy, and that's a mistake.   
      
   > Nope.   We do it because it works better than some half baked, unreliable   
   > part time weekend rock star wanna be.   
      
   In any case, that's still a matter of Settling for LESS!   
      
   > Pay is irrelevant. We could add players and charge more. Seriously.  You   
   > can believe that or not, I care not a tiny bit either way.  We use the   
   > computer because it works better than any actual players we have   
   > available.   
      
   Then That's the problem, a deficiency of the availability of Competent   
   players!   
      
   > you always fall back on that word.  there's nothing fake about what we do.   
      
   Zombies, being so mentally Inactive, don't care if something is actually   
   Real, or merely Pretending to be.   
      
   > same as us, same as us, exactly the same as us.   
      
   But Live Music requires Live musicians, Not recordings of them!   
      
   > we use it because it works better.   
      
   Maybe it *sounds* better but Non-Live doesn't work at all!   
      
   > I suspect you play for your own enjoyment.   
      
   You don't have to suspect that, because I've never suggested otherwise.   
      
   > Nothing wrong with that, so just admit it and be happy.   
      
   Admit it? I've always admitted that I wouldn't have it any other way!   
      
   > We play for our audience's enjoyment.   
      
   So do I, but I do that by playing for my own enjoyment first, which is why I   
   write Originals too.   
      
   > Different goal, different approach.  If i didn't care about the audience I   
   > could show up with a guitar and a mic and sing hippie protest songs all   
   > night. And then never work that particular place again :-)   
      
      
   Jim   
      
   All that's saying is that the sensible thing to do is Select what kind of   
   audience you wish to perform for...all the best bands do just that...it's   
   how  they get their dedicated fans.   
      
   Ouisie   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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