From: someone@anywheret.net   
      
   "JimD"  wrote in message news:2018021822232668130-email@nowherecom...   
      
   > big rooms with dance floors aren't that good for sound.  lots of echos.   
      
   Echo isn't good for sound, unless the speakers are placed well to minimize   
   out of phase cancellation.   
      
   > I'm still thinking about that band last weekend.  They had such a good   
   > sound, it was really astounding. I've heard many " real " bands in that   
   > room. My band plays there regularly.  This duo just flat nailed it.   
      
   Their sound system was properly set up, but that's probably the only part   
   that was noteworthy. ;)   
      
   > Of course, the music was almost entirely just real recordings, sounded   
   > like commercial karaokie files to me.   
      
   Anything but Real :(   
      
   > Once you go there, then the bass sounds like bass on a record.   
      
   Proper placement of the bass speakers in or very near the quarter space.   
      
   That's the  effect I'm looking for - recording studio quality played on a   
   high quality stereo system, only totally LIVE!!!   
      
   > The drums do all sorts of carefully timed reverb trails. And of course   
   > none of the " instruments " were trying to play louder than the guy next   
   > to him.  That's what you get from professionally mixed recordings. Which   
   > is what they sounded like.   
      
   Now to do that with Real Live musicians on Real Instruments!!!   
      
   > Maybe they make them themselves. Maybe. If so, I really have to up my   
   > game, I'm not even close capable of creating tracks that good.   
      
   The Real Challenge, and a Most Worthy one, is to do that with Real Live   
   musicians!   
      
   > And, you know, that's a possibility. I spend so much time trying to   
   > accommodate our one live drummer, and as a result have the instrument   
   > balances of our tracks all screwed.   
      
   There shouldn't be Any trying to accommodate, but rather COOPERATION!!!   
      
   > Plus, I err by listening to all the random advice I get from other people   
   > on this.  Some guy thinks the guitar is too thin. Someone else thinks the   
   > bass too loud. Someone else that our intros aren't loud enough. Another   
   > that the vocals are too loud for the music.  bla bla, on and on. Opinions,   
   > are, as you know, like they say about a$$holes, everyone has one.  And if   
   > you try to suit everyone, you'll never get there.   
      
   Anyone trying to tell me how to do what I know how to do immediately gets   
   tuned OUT! ;)   
      
   > Totally live bands get the same thing, advice from everyone, and ... the   
   > bands around here seem to have one thing in common ... they ignore   
   > whatever is said to them   
      
   Good for them!   
      
   > . . . with one exception.  That being, is someone says they aren't lound   
   > enough. If anyone said that, they'd crank it up.   
      
   They just want an 'excuse' to do what they're planning on doing   
   anyway...causing more Deafness!   
      
   > The bass players girlfriend says she can't hear him .... up it goes.   
   > Then everyone else cranks up to match that.  Rinse and repeat, until no   
   > one can stand the loud anymore.   
      
   Same old PUKE!!!   
      
   > Thinking of that, my bass player buddy that works in the Holidy Inn band   
   > ... he's buying ear plugs. I think I mentioned this before. Still, it   
   > strikes me as funny.  No one in the band has the nerve to say to anyone   
   > else that maybe they should just turn it down a bit.   
      
   I've got the nerve! And I don't hesitate to mention it either! And I've got   
   my earplugs always ready!   
      
   > That's just not cool.  No one wants to ever say someone else is too loud,   
   > Hell, even we are afraid to go there with our loud drummer.   
      
   IF your hearing, your ONLY facility for enjoying Music, is in Danger, then   
   SHOUT IT!!!   
      
   > We hint and stuff, but to no effect. He'd never back off anyway.   
      
   Keep using that 'approach' and you'll be lucky if you'll be able to hear   
   even a 'hint' of the Music!!!   
      
   And tell the drummer that if he won't back off, he'll only be allowed to   
   play an electronic drum kit...that or put him in a drum CAGE!   
      
   > So why risk the bad vibes.   
      
   Because when your hearing is GONE, the Music Vibes are GONE...PERMANENTLY,   
   that's why!!!   
      
   > With my solo and duo work, I can drop the volume to appropriate for the   
   > room / crowd.  Bands, nope not gonna ever happen at the weekend player   
   > level. Pros, that's a whole different story. They DO know how to control   
   > the volume.   
      
   Jim   
      
   Maturity shouldn't be merely requested or desired, it Must be Required and   
   Demanded!!!   
      
   That's why my Soulmate and myself are a duo...and IF at some point in the   
   future, we'd ever decide to make it a band, ONLY those who Qualify would be   
   able to have a chance at it...because Careful Pick-And-Choose is the ONLY   
   way to avoid IDIOTS!!!   
      
   Ouisie   
      
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