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|    Message 954 of 1,456    |
|    Ouisie to JimD    |
|    Re: big crisis    |
|    18 Mar 18 20:19:04    |
      From: someone@anywheret.net              "JimD" wrote in message news:2018031419414426403-email@nowherecom...              > I understand. That's what I read.              > In the beginning, people played at acoustic instrument, un-amplified       > singing levels.              And symphony orchestras still do, but hearing loss risks from all those       acoustic instrument volume levels can rival the loudest amplified bands.              > Then sometime in the late 60's someone invented floor wedges.              The establishment was always trying to do in rock & roll, and what better       way to kill it than kill the hearing of those playing it!              > Suddenly, it was possible to turn the singers up. Guitar players and       > drummers then, hearing the vocals and not caring and not wanting to hear       > those, cranked the amps up.              And to think a pa *and* a *competent* sound person could have Fixed all       that!!!              > Because they could.              Yeah, but mostly because they were, and still are, STUPID!!!              But of course by now they're still Stupid *and* DEAF!              > And they kept turning the amps up, and the drummers played louder, and the       > guitars turned up more, and the singers ask for more monitors. And the       > sound person turned the wedges up a bit. And the guitar players noticed,       > and turned up even more. And the drummers heard that and played louder.       > This cycle repeats until the mics squeal, and the floor wedges can't be       > turned up any more.              One would think that SOMEONE *has* to have some SENSE!!!              > And the result is, the singers still can't hear themselves. But the stage       > level is massively higher.              And the hearing loss is higher too.       .......              > After a while, singers and sound people got tired of carrying those big       > heavey floor wedges around. What's the point, they don't help the singers       > hear any better anyway. They just cause the entire band to play a LOT       > louder.              Pure IDIOCY is what causes the band to play louder!!!              > But the idea, the seed, of vocal monitors was planted. Sound people,       > someone somewhere, thought, " hey, what if we used small monitors,       > something loud enough for the singer to hear, but not bigg enough to swamp       > the entire stage with vocals. Since that flooding of the stage is why the       > guitarists decide to crank it " .              Small, efficient near field monitors are a Very Awesome idea!              > To understand this process. You have to understand the vocal monitors are       > a relatively recent thing. Did Elvis use floor wedges ? Did the Beatles       > ? Look it up.              Monster wedges with sometimes TWO 15" speakers in each one can't do anything       but Damage hearing!              > In the beginning, bands played A LOT quieter. Then floor wedges, along       > with all the problems those cause. In response to those side effects,       > smaller mic stand monitors were developed. And those work a little. They       > have their own problems.              The tiny mic stand monitors work very well when used properly.              > The next step was in ears. ......              The IEMs work well too, at least until I can't stand them being in my ears       anymore.              > There must be a reason that old saying came to be so popular.              And I suspect that reason is nothing more than Terminal Laziness and       subsequent Copping Out!              > Well, yes. That ability for each of us to adjust the levels and mix of our       > own monitors is the main reason I bought the XR18.              That's more than a good reason!              > For our drummer, that worked. He uses a Samsung tablet running the X Air Q       > app to control the mix in his in ears. He's happy now.              COOL!!! Sure beats the alternative!              > I sometimes wear foam ear plugs when I sleep. All night. Wake up, my       > ears are still there.              Maybe you have very dry ears that have no moisture accumulation       problems...but I'm not so fortunate.              > I'll never be involved with transporting that sort of gear anymore. Or       > being in a band that uses this stuff.              I don't even want to be hear it!              > You should have put on a big ol' smile :-)              Jim              I pretty much can't resist doing that when the Vibe is there ;)              Ouisie              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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