From: someone@anywheret.net   
      
   "JimD"  wrote in message news:2018041212210996302-email@nowherecom...   
      
   > In my case, my hearing is failing, but not in any spectacular way, not   
   > much worse that would be expected for normal age related loss.  I have   
   > high end loss.   
      
   I'm sure that's because of all the cranking up you've been subjected to.   
      
   > One odd thing is that my left ear, left only, has two specific frequencies   
   > that I can't hear a thing at. One is about 4300hz, and the other is   
   > 5400hz. Using a sweep generator and wearing headphones, I can't hear those   
   > at all in my left ear. Right ear is fine.  Reason .... Cymbals. I've had   
   > those two notches in that ear since my 20's.   One very loud drummer,   
   > always on that side of me, for several years, 6 nights a week, regular   
   > full time club gig. Permanent damage to that ear.   
      
   That's how those things happen. I was in my 20s when I was subjected to   
   sizzler cymbals - that's when I started wearing earplugs.   
      
   > But overall, yeas, I can hear ok. Mild tinnitus.  Had that since my teens.   
   > It's tolerable, can be much worse if I get my hearing pounded as I did   
   > last week.   
      
   That's the problem with ASSAULTS on hearing, each Attack leaves more and   
   more Cumulative Damage until hearing is Lost.   
      
   > There is a thing called LDL, Loudness Distress Level. In normal people   
   > it's the point where sound hurts, around 85 to 90 db-ish, iirc.  In   
   > older people or people with hearing damage, that threshold can drop   
   > down.  That's one reason seniors are sensitive to loud sounds that "   
   > normal " hearing people don't object too.   
      
   That seems weird, because  I've always observed that those experiencing   
   progressive deafness become more and more "hard of hearing"....which is why   
   they need hearing aids - to amplify sound.   
      
   > They have a compressed range   
   > of hearing ( I have that ), and the LDL is point is lower.  I'd say I   
   > have that also, but my objections to our stage level are me complaining   
   > about 100db plus levels, and that would make anyone who can hear   
   > complain.   
      
   I'd  say it's because they've taken care of their hearing is the reason they   
   complain about too loud sounds...because they've preserved their hearing   
   sensitivity.   
      
   > So, what's that mean?  What's it all come down too ?   
      
   I'd say the sensible thing to do is to stay below hearing Damaging levels.   
      
   > That my band mates that insist on very loud stage levels can't hear very   
   > well.   
      
   That's more than plainly obvious. They should  get hearing aids and then   
   take care of what little hearing they have left.   
      
   > People are in many ways stupid.  Everyone believes things that are   
   > wrong.   
      
   Because they're too LAZY, a STUPID way to be, to check it out and Verify   
   whether it's true, or  a LIE.   
      
   > We've all been taught wrong things. And we've come to wrong   
   > conclusions on our own.  The stupid part kicks in when you know you're   
   > wrong and yet still won't change, won't admit it to yourself.   
      
   That Adds Another dimension to being Stupid. First, there's the  STUPIDITY   
   of being LAZY, now, in Addition, there's also the STUPIDITY of being   
   MASOCHISTIC i.e. Lazy AND Masochistic!!!   
      
   Then to top it off, there's the STUPIDITY of NON-THINKING, because that   
   supports being Lazy i.e. don't think because it's 'hard work', and it   
   supports being a Masochist because 'it's so depressing to think about being   
   Abused' - that's where "bread and circuses" comes from - Distraction from   
   the Horrors of Reality!   
      
   > No ability to self adjust, to change and accept reality.  Some hold onto   
   > false beliefs out of stubbornness. Or ego.  Or just plain Stupid.   
      
      
   Jim   
      
   Oh, I believe there is the ability to adjust and Respond, but without the   
   Inclination to do so, nothing good happens.   
      
   It's just like two big screen monitors, like we have at church - one of them   
   fell about nine feet and was destroyed, the other one survived....BUT, IF   
   the power plug is out  of the wall on the one that still works, that monitor   
   is Practically JUST AS DEAD as the one that was destroyed...and THAT is Why   
   the Enemy seeks FOOLS to *act* like Zombies - because if they do, they might   
   as well, for all Vile Intents and Purposes, actually BE Non-Thinking   
   Zombies!!!   
      
   Ouisie   
      
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