From: someone@anywheret.net   
      
   "JimD"  wrote in message news:2018041613365796270-email@nowherecom...   
      
   > again, yep. It's absolutely the result of loud cymbals.   
      
   When I started wearing earplugs, the sizzler cymbals were about a foot   
   behind my head and the drummer was a cymbal freak.   
      
   > You could look into this more.  A compressed range of hearing is common.   
   > Nothing really LOUD, mid range volumes ok, low sounds unheard or buried   
   > under tinnitus.   
      
   I've never heard of such a thing unless there was hearing damage.   
      
   > The tell is, nothing sounds " too loud " to you anymore.  Because you   
   > don't hear " loud " as loud. You hear it as ok.  Like, the nerves still   
   > sorta work, but eh, barely.   
      
   Everyone is different, and I should know particularly with my neurological   
   situation, so I guess it's possible. But I've never known of anyone with   
   such a problem.   
      
   > LDL is a different thing, related to this.  It's reasonably common, which   
   > I didn't realize.  Very good possibility that's why some older people   
   > complain about loud.   
      
   So far, everyone I've ever encountered who complained about  excessive   
   loudness had excellent hearing.   
   Also, there are those who have been fortunate enough to have made it through   
   life with very little excessive volume levels and so they're not used to   
   them and respond very negatively to them as a result.   
      
   > It's not an issue of liking it, it's partially an issue of pain receptors   
   > firing when you otherwise aren't hearing anything.   And there's an effect   
   > called " recruitment " I think. I might have that wrong ... some word like   
   > that for when neighboring nerves fire.  So no sound, then suddendly you do   
   > hear, but at VERY loud levels.  Nothing or too much.   
      
   Those appear to be the exceptions rather than anything near the rule.   
      
   > Going deaf isn't a simple straightforward thing.  Some think it is, sorry   
   > no.  And young people think it won't happen to them. Keep pounding on the   
   > ears and they might be in for a surprise .   
      
   Their hearing fades away and so they're not surprised because it's  so   
   gradual - that's the Tragedy of it all.   
      
   > In some cases.  In others LDL.   
      
   As the level of hearing sensitivity fades away i.e. deafness increases, the   
   Loudness Discomfort Level also increases, until no level is too loud because   
   deafness has become total...and that's the direction Idiots are going over   
   cranking their amps.   
      
   > I'm resolved on this. Simply not playing loud on stage anymore.  I'll wear   
   > my IEM's, they can do whatever.  And I'll pick up some regular ear plugs   
   > for the off chance I get drug out to see a loud band.   
      
   I'd say get earplugs for musicians that let you hear the full range only   
   dramatically attenuated for SPL, but if you're not playing, who cares?   
   Protect your hearing. Then afterwards, tell the band they Sucked and let   
   them see your earplugs so they can tell you that the plugs you're using are   
   only for noise, not Music, to which a great response would be that when the   
   amps are cranked too high, what played through them IS noise, not Music ;)   
      
   Great idea for a bumper sticker: LOUD BANDS SUCK!   
      
   At very least they Suck the hearing right out of anyone within range not   
   wearing earplugs.   
      
   > People settle into beliefs, because they work in some situation or   
   > another.  That's ok.   
      
   It's okay if it's Truthful, Honest, and Accurate.   
      
   > But things change.  Being unwilling to change when you need to, that's a   
   > flaw.   
      
   Jim   
      
   Things change for various reasons, some valid, and some Invalid, and   
   Manipulators are always trying to Force *their* changes on others, and that   
   deserves all the Contempt and Resistance it, and they, are due!!!   
      
   Ouisie   
      
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