From: someone@anywheret.net   
      
   "JimD"  wrote in message news:2018041712284741612-email@nowherecom...   
      
   > I don't know that it's exceptionally fragile. Maybe it isn't.  But before   
   > you put that to a test, figure out how you're gonna use the mixer without   
   > the antenna.   It's plastic :-)   
      
   Some plastic is strong as steel, the Quality stuff that is.   
      
   > Some newer stage setups use ethernet cabling ( CAT 5 or 6 ? ) and digital   
   > conversion boxes on each end for when multiple hardware connections can't   
   > be avoided.  We looked into that, way too expensive for us.   And my keen   
   > sense of what's happening tells me wifi will replace even the ethernet   
   > things.   
      
   Doesn't even seem to be necessary...because if it has to be a cable, I'm   
   just fine with 1/4" phone...unless of course, it's going to be entirely   
   wireless and do away with all cables - one can only hope.   
      
   > Sorry, I should have been clearer.  These little toys are just the amps,   
   > not amps and speakers. Speakers are ad big and clunky as ever.   
      
   Unless you want to go with the  Bose-O Gimmick L1 'stick', 'tower', array   
   etc...more ridiculuously overpriced Bose-O Crap.   
   Put that alongside a REAL speaker system and there's no comparison!   
      
   > Some people I know think " bar " when it comes to sound level.  They think   
   > that the music needs to overpower any possible other sounds in the venue.   
   > Maybe that's it.  Maybe they really don't even consider any other possible   
   > way to work other than blast the sound so loud that even the entire   
   > audience screaming can't over loud them.  It's a bar way of thinking.   
   > Really is.   
      
   More like the Booze is doing the 'thinking'.   
      
   > I'm imagining what concerts would be like if everyone in the audience just   
   > screamed ..... could the music ever be loud enough to hear ?   
      
   All depends on how many KW of amplification you want to throw at them ;)   
      
   > Isn't this one of the big reasons the Beatles quit playing live ?   
      
   I'm not sure about that one...but transistor amps were relatively new back   
   then and probably lacking in to enormous amounts of power that's so   
   commonplace for them today ;)   
      
      
   >   
   >> Not a problem. Learn what a volume control is for :-)   
   >   
   > Of course. I could power a 3" speaker or smaller from a 1000 watt amp and   
   > have no problem...but I've seen Idiots who, if they can get their Stupid   
   > grimy paws on the volume control, won't hesitate crank it.   
      
   > It is stupid.  Basically, you can't hand over the controls to people who   
   > don't know what they are doing.   
      
   That's true of anything, particularly where lack of knowledge can be   
   dangerous.   
      
   > Who don't know you can crash the airplane, cause a steam boiler to   
   > explode, take a submarine below its crush depth .... or, blow up all the   
   > speakers in our pa by cranking the amps up.   
      
   Or if it's a gun, kill or permanently cripple someone in a fraction of a   
   second...and become the latest poster child for Citizen Disarmament,   
   euphemistically called 'gun control'.   
      
   > I like that thought. A submariner who doesn't believe the depth gauge, and   
   > doesn't believe the subs crush depth spec.   
      
   Or the pilot who doesn't believe the spec Vne (Velocity Never Exceed) for   
   the plane being flown, even though exceeding it could cause the plane to   
   disintegrate.   
      
   > These sorts of things, and jobs that depend on them, require that you ARE   
   > capable of thinking. And ARE capable of believing the max specs on   
   > equiptment.   
      
   And that's only the  beginning. Sometimes, indicators will malfunction and   
   'lie', in which case, a proficient operator must be able to recognize that   
   and use other reliable means to prevent disaster - LOTS OF THINKING   
   REQUIRED...definitely Not for Zombies!!!   
      
   > Not the sort of  " just crank it " full up mindset I've been working with.   
      
   My father was among many other things, also an amateur astronomer (that's   
   how I got interested in it when I was about 6), and one of his pet peeves   
   was Idiots who would first, before anything else, practically hug a   
   telescope like it was a periscope on a submarine, rather than approach it   
   the Right way, with their eye ONLY, very carefully so as not to bump the   
   'scope out of position, and then LOOK into the eyepiece and then ONLY if it   
   needed focusing, very carefully, like defusing a bomb, gently adjust it with   
   the lightest touch on the fingers.   
      
   Kind of like grabbing the volume control and cranking it full clockwise,   
   with the usual results...severely distorted, Loud sound, the smell of   
   burning insulation, some smoke, then no sound.   
      
   > Oh, and someone I know blew up some more of his floor wedges last weekend.   
   > Not while working with us, thank god.  Some people never learn.   
      
   And none of that stuff is cheap.   
      
   > We use different combinations of speakers depending on the job. Most are   
   > powered, some aren't.  The issue is, no matter what, we have more power   
   > available than the cabs will tolerate if you wanna be stupid and fry   
   > things.   
      
   Perhaps a partial solution, to frying speakers, not tolerating Idiots, might   
   be a volume/power limiter that could be set based on the speaker hookup   
   configuration so that they couldn't be fried, but then of course, an even   
   better idea would be an SPL Limiter that could be set to automatically   
   prevent hearing from being fried ;)   
      
   > Even self powered cabs can be wrecked is you work at it.   
      
   It doesn't take all that much either.   
      
   > Too much high end will fry the horns in anything.   
      
   The vast majority of horns have rather small, delicate, but very efficient   
   voice coil/diaphragm assemblies, so frying them is very easy, even with   
   crossovers protecting them.   
      
   > And mic-ing a kick drum, then saying you can't " feel " it, is a good way   
   > to send the drivers in sub cabs off to speaker suspension heaven :-)   
      
   I don't know why they don't just make a bass drum speaker, consisting of a   
   slightly "long throw" woofer inside a cab of similar volume of the  bass   
   drum itself. Then if they really want to feel it, put it in the quarter   
   space, or better yet, the eighth space.   
      
   Ouisie   
      
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