From: a_rod_777@yahoo.com   
      
   On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 2:13:05 AM UTC-6, litewave wrote:   
   > On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 3:28:23 AM UTC+2, Eric Vinyard wrote:   
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   > > Even particles that supposedly blink in and out of existence come from the   
   fabric of spacetime - whatever that even "is".   
   >    
   > Spacetime is a mathematical structure. And moreover, for particles to appear   
   in spacetime there must be laws of quantum mechanics, which are something too.   
   Without the laws of QM particles would not appear.   
      
   Your ego is overshadowing the simple fact that our system of mathematics is   
   largely incomplete and does not include simple fundamental laws of mentality   
   which are an intricate part of the Universe. Yes, there is a definite language   
   that the Universe uses    
   to describe itself, however it is far more complex than the current state of   
   our mathematics could define.   
       
   > > If total nothingness ever was, it would seem to continue to always be.   
   Which contradicts my first statement, obviously.   
   >    
   > Total nothingness seems to be a logically inconsistent state, even if it   
   didn't require someone who would imagine it. If there was totally nothing   
   (meaning there was not anything at all), there would be the fact that there   
   was totally nothing. But a    
   fact is something, a property of reality. So there cannot ever be totally   
   nothing.   
      
   Puny humans think their reasoning and logic can somehow compare to that of the   
   Creator...   
      
   Just becasue your mind cannot fathom the reality that first exists as concepts   
   in the mind of the ALL does not mean that it does not happen.   
      
   I can't make you understand that the physical reality you are basing your   
   "logic" on is simply mental in nature. Here, let me shout it at you and maybe   
   you will hear me:   
      
   WHAT YOU EXPERIENCE AND BELIEVE TO BE PHYSICAL REALITY IS MERELY A SHADOW OF   
   THE INFORMATION THAT IS TRULY THERE!!! THE TRUE NATURE OF PHYSICALITY IS NOT A   
   SOLID STATE AT ALL, BUT A PERMEABLE CONCEPT CONTAINED WITHIN THE MIND OF THE   
   ALL THAT EXISTS ONLY    
   AS PURE POTENTIAL UNTIL IT IS ACTUALIZED INTO THE ILLUSION OF SOLID FORM   
   WITHIN THE PERIMETERS OF OUR OWN SUBJECTIVE MINDS!!!   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)