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|    litewave to All    |
|    Re: Keep Talking...    |
|    31 Mar 18 04:27:26    |
      From: litewave99@gmail.com              On Saturday, March 31, 2018 at 1:46:56 AM UTC+2, a_rod_777 wrote:       > Your ego is overshadowing the simple fact that our system of mathematics is       largely incomplete and does not include simple fundamental laws of mentality       which are an intricate part of the Universe. Yes, there is a definite language       that the Universe        uses to describe itself, however it is far more complex than the current state       of our mathematics could define.              I think that mathematics, like logic, ultimately boils down to the principle       of non-contradiction. They both study structures of relations. And qualities       of consciousness (feelings) are non-relational objects which we might call       "things" or "stuff" that        stand in logical/mathematical relations. This would explain why qualities of       consciousness have something ineffable about them, something that eludes       description (because every description is relational), while at the same time       they stand in relations to        other things like neurons. In this sense, all things are actually qualities of       consciousness, but apparently some things are more conscious than others, for       example an animal is more conscious than a plant, a certain portion of the       brain is more        conscious than a single neuron, or a single person is more conscious than a       group of persons as a whole. The level of consciousness seems to depend on the       dynamic organized complexity of the thing or what Giulio Tononi calls       "integrated information",        which means that the thing has many different parts that are also richly       causally interconnected.               --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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