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|    a_rod_777 to litewave    |
|    Re: Keep Talking...    |
|    09 Apr 18 10:09:18    |
      From: a_rod_777@yahoo.com              On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 3:27:29 AM UTC-6, litewave wrote:       > On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 1:50:10 AM UTC+2, a_rod_777 wrote:       > > On Saturday, March 31, 2018 at 4:47:44 AM UTC-6, litewave wrote:       > > > On Saturday, March 31, 2018 at 12:28:16 AM UTC+2, a_rod_777 wrote:       > > > > On Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 12:27:24 PM UTC-6, litewave wrote:       > > > > > On Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 6:37:46 PM UTC+2, a_rod_777 wrote:       > > > > > > It's a matter of perspective.       > > > > >        > > > > > Then there are no contradictions in reality and so reality is       logically consistent.       > > > >        > > > > Of course it is,... but consistent by Universal logic which is whole       and complete in contrast to Human logic which is premature, pompous and       infinitesimally limited.       > > >        > > > Logic is simply non-contradiction, which means that nothing is both true       and not true in the same sense (or from the same perspective). That's all. It       is not "human" or "physical".       > >        > > But there is a difference in perspective from the human form to the       Universal.       > > One is incomplete while the other is complete. Is "incomplete" logic still       considered "non-contradiction" by your standards?       >        > From the universal (all-encompassing) perspective all details are known, but       even if we don't know that perspective we at least know that from that       perspective nothing is both true and not true. So we know that the principle       of non-contradiction (logic)        applies to the whole reality, even if we don't know all the details of       reality.              I agree. We can surmise, from the Universal law of correspondence, that a form       of logic does indeed apply to the whole, but what I am attempting to open your       mind to is this; the logic of G-d transcends the logic of man.              Here is an analogy that may help you to grasp what I am attempting to express:       Mankind's logic is like basic kindergarten math, based entirely on only that       which we can perceive with 5 senses. Universal logic, which is based on the       WHOLE of existence, operates in an entirely more advanced and unrecognizable       system, which would be        like Calculus compared to kindergarten math.              Calculus doesn't render Kindergarten math obsolete or invalid, it simply shows       that their is much more to mathematics then simply addition and subtraction.       It also shows quite clearly that certain calculations about reality cannot be       made accurately with        only the knowledge of basic mathematics. It requires a much greater       understanding of math to obtain the answers we are seeking.              Universal logic is simply an infinitely more complex and complete set of       processes then that which we are currently capable of ascertaining and       comprehending with our limited senses and intelligence. We have to accept that       we cannot find the answers to        some of these equations based on the limited amount of variables that are       known to us... thus we must accept that things that seem "illogical" or       "paradoxical" to us at such a remedial level of awareness, can indeed resolve       themselves from a higher        perspective of awareness.              If we lived in a 2-D world we may find it impossible to think of the heads and       tails of a coin being part of one and the same concept, but from a 3-D world       we see it is simply two sides of the same coin.              We really have to let go of our Ego's desire to think it knows everything and       its need to have control over every aspect of life. By learning to let go of       the desire for immediate control we find an even greater aspect of power       within us.              The power of control over one's own state of being should proceed all else on       the path of wisdom. The ability to truly humble one's self before the presence       of something greater than ourselves, is one of the hardest attributes to       acquire and maintain        throughout life.              You cannot understand calculus armed only with kindergarten math and       attempting to do so will only cause you endless frustration. You must admit       you need to learn more then begin the path of acquiring more awareness. until       you take this step you will be        like a dog chasing his tail endlessly in circles forever...              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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