From: litewave99@gmail.com   
      
   On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 7:09:20 PM UTC+2, a_rod_777 wrote:   
   > On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 3:27:29 AM UTC-6, litewave wrote:   
   > > On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 1:50:10 AM UTC+2, a_rod_777 wrote:   
   > > > On Saturday, March 31, 2018 at 4:47:44 AM UTC-6, litewave wrote:   
   > > > > On Saturday, March 31, 2018 at 12:28:16 AM UTC+2, a_rod_777 wrote:   
   > > > > > On Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 12:27:24 PM UTC-6, litewave wrote:   
   > > > > > > On Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 6:37:46 PM UTC+2, a_rod_777 wrote:   
   > > > > > > > It's a matter of perspective.   
   > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > Then there are no contradictions in reality and so reality is   
   logically consistent.   
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > Of course it is,... but consistent by Universal logic which is whole   
   and complete in contrast to Human logic which is premature, pompous and   
   infinitesimally limited.   
   > > > >    
   > > > > Logic is simply non-contradiction, which means that nothing is both   
   true and not true in the same sense (or from the same perspective). That's   
   all. It is not "human" or "physical".   
   > > >    
   > > > But there is a difference in perspective from the human form to the   
   Universal.   
   > > > One is incomplete while the other is complete. Is "incomplete" logic   
   still considered "non-contradiction" by your standards?   
   > >    
   > > From the universal (all-encompassing) perspective all details are known,   
   but even if we don't know that perspective we at least know that from that   
   perspective nothing is both true and not true. So we know that the principle   
   of non-contradiction (   
   logic) applies to the whole reality, even if we don't know all the details of   
   reality.   
   >    
   > I agree. We can surmise, from the Universal law of correspondence, that a   
   form of logic does indeed apply to the whole, but what I am attempting to open   
   your mind to is this; the logic of G-d transcends the logic of man.   
   >    
   > Here is an analogy that may help you to grasp what I am attempting to   
   express:   
   > Mankind's logic is like basic kindergarten math, based entirely on only that   
   which we can perceive with 5 senses. Universal logic, which is based on the   
   WHOLE of existence, operates in an entirely more advanced and unrecognizable   
   system, which would be    
   like Calculus compared to kindergarten math.   
   >    
   > Calculus doesn't render Kindergarten math obsolete or invalid, it simply   
   shows that their is much more to mathematics then simply addition and   
   subtraction. It also shows quite clearly that certain calculations about   
   reality cannot be made accurately    
   with only the knowledge of basic mathematics. It requires a much greater   
   understanding of math to obtain the answers we are seeking.   
   >    
   > Universal logic is simply an infinitely more complex and complete set of   
   processes then that which we are currently capable of ascertaining and   
   comprehending with our limited senses and intelligence. We have to accept that   
   we cannot find the answers to    
   some of these equations based on the limited amount of variables that are   
   known to us... thus we must accept that things that seem "illogical" or   
   "paradoxical" to us at such a remedial level of awareness, can indeed resolve   
   themselves from a higher    
   perspective of awareness.   
   >    
   > If we lived in a 2-D world we may find it impossible to think of the heads   
   and tails of a coin being part of one and the same concept, but from a 3-D   
   world we see it is simply two sides of the same coin.   
   >    
   > We really have to let go of our Ego's desire to think it knows everything   
   and its need to have control over every aspect of life. By learning to let go   
   of the desire for immediate control we find an even greater aspect of power   
   within us.   
   >    
   > The power of control over one's own state of being should proceed all else   
   on the path of wisdom. The ability to truly humble one's self before the   
   presence of something greater than ourselves, is one of the hardest attributes   
   to acquire and maintain    
   throughout life.   
   >    
   > You cannot understand calculus armed only with kindergarten math and   
   attempting to do so will only cause you endless frustration. You must admit   
   you need to learn more then begin the path of acquiring more awareness. until   
   you take this step you will    
   be like a dog chasing his tail endlessly in circles forever...   
      
   What we don't know is just metaphysical details, not ultimate logic. Ultimate   
   logic is just the principle that nothing is both true and not true in the same   
   sense.   
      
   And even regarding methaphysical details, scientists have already gone far   
   beyond what we perceive with 5 senses. Take string theory, which postulates   
   additional space dimensions, which no one has so far perceived. Or take   
   mathematicians, who discovered    
   hierarchies of infinities. The 5 senses won't tell you that some infinities   
   are greater than others, and yet mathematicians have discovered exactly that.   
      
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