From: litewave99@gmail.com   
      
   On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 4:22:09 PM UTC+2, myriadsma...@yahoo.com wrote:   
   > On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 2:21:19 AM UTC-5, litewave wrote:   
   > > On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 4:08:26 AM UTC+2, myriadsma...@yahoo.com   
   wrote:   
   > > > I wonder if Tomas waded his way through "The Master and His Emissary"   
   after all.   
   > >    
   > > Yes I did eventually. How are you going?   
   >    
   > Ordered it in print, then found it online, and keep it open on my desktop.   
   >    
   > I find it fascinating, and dense. As with Jaynes, the book has an excellent   
   bibliography, enough for a lifetime.   
   >    
   > McGilchrist needed a better editor. Part of that is the material itself.   
   Part is his presentation. IMO. Part of it is me. About halfway through, I'm   
   waiting for discussion of pitch-based language, specialization v. redundancy,   
   etc, etc... Preparing to    
   be disappointed.   
      
   Pitch-based language? Seems like something the right hemisphere might be   
   interested in, as it is more sensitive to the tone of voice and melodies.   
      
   One thing that irritated me in the book was that although McGilchrist affirms   
   the holistic view (focus on the whole as opposed to parts) of the right   
   hemisphere, as opposed to the analytic view of the left hemisphere, he also   
   repeatedly associates focus    
   on the general with the left hemisphere and focus on the particular with the   
   right. Since generalization suppresses differentiation I would expect it to be   
   more in the domain of the right hemisphere. But he seems to associate   
   generalization with stuff    
   like decontextualization, schematism, lifeless theorizing. Which it may be in   
   some cases, but it seems misleading.     
      
   >    
   > I brought up the book and your quote in the hopes that Hank et al might see   
   the barrenness of applying cybernetics to the aenigma. The mind is not a   
   closed-loop system, though the left-brain might 'believe' otherwise.   
      
   I don't know how wide the scope of cybernetics is. Machines can also interact   
   with the environment and learn. Neuroanatomist Jill Bolte Taylor has a TED   
   talk about her experience of a stroke in the left hemisphere, and there she   
   describes the left    
   hemisphere as a linear processor and the right hemisphere as a parallel   
   processor. That seems to fit with the narrowly focused, step-by-step style of   
   the left and the more diffused, inclusive, multitasking style of the right.    
      
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