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   luvprog to All   
   Justice for girl in video   
   28 Jul 18 05:22:54   
   
   From: denisesharpe15@yahoo.com   
      
   I'll be 67 in August, so I wrote that I'm 67.  I'm sending this out    
   all over in the UK.  I might make some slight adjustments in grammar.   
    I'm including a screenshot of the restaurant scene with the emails and   
   letters.   
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   I am a 67 year young American woman and for years I've wanted the people of   
   the U.K. to know the truth about a young lady they may have seen on television   
   and video. It is my younger self from 1972.    
      
   For about 44 years a short movie clip that I am in from 'The Old Grey Whistle   
   Test: ELP 26/12/73 - BBC/Manticore Films', has been used in many other videos   
   and broadcasts such as:   
      
   The ELP 1993 Welcome Back VHS, 2001 Welcome Back on DVD, 2003 ELP Works   
   Orchestral Tour which includes the entire Manticore film   
   And from Jan 2012 through 2017 in the "How the Brits Rocked America" Go West   
   episode 2, on BBC Four. And maybe more that I haven't seen.   
      
   I was never asked to be in the movie with Carl Palmer. In 1972, after a show,   
   on the way to a restaurant I overheard someone in the limo say "we're going to   
   be in a movie"  I thought it would be only of the band because I was just a   
   fan of Carl's and no    
   one important. The table of the private room of the restaurant was all   
   decorated with red flowers, candlelight and white tablecloths. I thought it   
   was a bit much for a bunch of guys, the band, managers and concert promoters.   
      
   When my girlfriend, who was with me, and I first sat down, I saw a guy with a   
   camera but didn't think they'd want me in a movie because I wasn't anybody   
   special, so I turned away. I didn't want anyone getting the wrong information   
   about who I was.   
      
   I didn't know the camera was on Carl and me while we were eating. The waiter   
   saw the camera, as you can see from the screenshot, then Carl turned to get my   
   attention and told me to get the kind of salad dressing he got. Then I said   
   "ok" to the waiter.    
      
   The only time Carl seemed concerned about me at the dinner was when the movie   
   camera was going. And I was puzzled when he turned to me looking at me so   
   closely.  I had met him in spring of 1971 when he came up to me after a show.   
   I really liked him, but    
   I was mostly a fan who loved drumming. From then through 1973 I felt like only   
   a friend to him because Carl would send me away to sleep elsewhere after a   
   party. But it was almost 3 years later in early December 73 (before the   
   Manticore film would be    
   shown in the UK) that he showed a bit of interest in sex. I was really   
   surprised but he was nice to me, and I did love him, so I trusted him. I was   
   so naive.   
      
   The next night I realized that previous night was just a part of a plan to   
   gain my trust. Carl and his karate teacher, (who was President of Manticore   
   records and who named the album "Brain Salad Surgery") tried to create a photo   
   op of Carl in bed    
   between me and some very eager woman, who was already in bed wearing a Brain   
   Salad Surgery t-shirt.   
      
   That night, I was served so much wine at dinner and I was wondering what was   
   plan was being discussed. Later in the hotel room Carl pulled my arm so I'd   
   get into bed with him and the woman. His friend was ready with a camera near   
   my face.   
      
   I got away and just cried, it was so scary. What were they going to use the   
   photo for? To be shown in the Manticore film along with the restaurant scene   
   to show me in a false light so if I told some secrets, I wouldn't be believed?   
   Or to cover the fact    
   that Carl's karate teacher named the album Brain Salad Surgery which means   
   oral sex with a man.   
      
   I was first aware of the Manticore film in 93 when I saw a bootleg VHS and was   
   shocked to see myself. Then after that the "Welcome Back" music documentary of   
   ELP's career came out, the movie clip from 1972 is shown in it.   
      
   At that time I wrote to Carl at Victory Records in California asking why he   
   was using that old film clip of me since we hadn't spoken since Dec 1973. I   
   thought it would give people the wrong idea of who I was.  I didn't get a   
   reply from him.   
      
   I talked to him very briefly a couple times while he was on tour with Asia, in   
   2008 and 2010.  I told him I knew him in the 70's and his reply was "I don't   
   remember the 70's.  He was rude to me and pointed to my walking cane saying   
   "How are you coming    
   along with THAT".   
      
   Then in 2012 I was watching a YouTube video of How the Brits rocked America"   
   and was very shocked to see myself with him again in that old clip from 72. It   
   was eerie considering I had written many times asking that I not be used   
   anymore. And the fact    
   that he refused to talk to me made it all the more hurtful..    
      
   I was playing drums in 72 at the time of the dinner scene and told Carl I was   
   playing, but he said maybe I could get a gig in a Cabaret. The comment wasn't   
   very inspiring  and I didn't respond. Carl inspired me to play when I first   
   saw him in 1971.   
      
   ELP song "Tiger in a Spotlight" lyrics "To dine with Tigers in the sky but did   
   you ever stop to wonder why?" And  "Drums listen here she comes hammerin the   
   plastic" all seemed familiar to me considering I was playing drums at the time   
   and told Carl about    
   it at the dinner. And the restaurant was located in downtown Detroit where the   
   baseball team the Tigers played.    
      
   This song was recorded in 1973 but not released until 1977 on the Works Volumn   
   II album. The song made me think that maybe I was wanted at the dinner because   
   Carl liked me. But I was wrong, I was just used.‪ They had a camera on me.   
   Was I the "Tiger in    
   a spotlight"?‬   
      
   I was used without my knowledge in the video to be shown as whatever viewers   
   chose to think of me, when I was only a recent fan who liked him and his   
   drumming.  I asked that I not be used anymore in 93 but it kept up until 2017   
      
   I avoided being used in a sex photo op against my will that could have shown   
   me in a false light as someone of bad character. The photo would have helped   
   Carl's image though and then the things I know about him wouldn't be believed.   
      
   All I want is for the people of the UK who may have seen me, to know the truth   
   about me and what Carl did to me.    
      
   As my story is about famous people, I'm having a difficult time getting it out   
   into the media.   Can you help me by publishing this?    
      
   I love the UK and the people. I've been there several times and have friends   
   who live there.   
   Thank you    
      
   PS This is a part of a bigger story that I have, but it's the part I most want   
   the UK to know first.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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