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   From: master@mason.snuh   
      
   John Henry wrote in   
   news:Xns961B212B98736johnhenrylowgeniusco@216.168.3.44:   
      
   > King of Brawl Hall wrote in   
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   >> John Henry wrote in   
   >> news:Xns961AF24E0DA48johnhenrylowgeniusco@216.168.3.44:   
   >>   
   >>> King of Brawl Hall wrote in   
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   >>>   
   >>>> John Henry wrote in   
   >>>> news:Xns961AE7ACA84BBjohnhenrylowgeniusco@216.168.3.44:   
   >>>   
   >>> RE: deathdrums: I doubt I could sit down TODAY and keep up, but then   
   >>> I haven't played at all in three years. Rust, donchaknow.   
   >>>   
   >>> OTOH, could how many of them could kick back and rip off some mellow   
   >> shit,   
   >>> employ finesse and elegance in their playing? Most of the DM   
   >>> drummers I've met know one thing and one thing only: hit whatever   
   >>> you can as hard and fast as you can. Neat trick, but there's a whole   
   >>> universe of other things to do with a drum set. If I wanted to   
   >>> impress people with my athleticism I'd have joined the football team.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> The best death/grind drummers eventually move on to fusion.   
   >   
   > Both of them!   
      
   Too many to name. All of which could put you in the dust.   
      
   >> Of course   
   >> many of them can play 'mellow shit'.   
   >>   
   >> What would be the point of that?   
   >   
   > Diversity is a key component of talent.   
      
   Do you find silly assumptions often serve you well in life?   
      
   >>>> Furthermore, I've no interest in talking to you rationally, in a   
   >>>> back-and- forth breezy manner.   
   >>>   
   >>> You see, Gorto, that's the difference between a guy like you and a   
   >>> guy like me. It's also reflective of your unyielding ignorance,   
   >>> regardless of how many term papers you can write.   
   >>   
   >> There's no ignorance in not wanting to be your pal. To the contrary,   
   >> it's an educated, informed decision.   
   >   
   > There is ignorance in your preening, transparent attitude - hate the   
   > world before the world notices it hates you.   
      
   I hate the world, now?   
      
   > Come to think of it, that's kinda the whole basis of the deathmetal   
   > genre, isn't it?   
      
   Not at all. What do you know about such things, anyway?   
      
   > I can't get along with hardly anyone, so I'm gonna   
   > throw on this anti-social violent mask and pretend it's me who's   
   > rejecting them, that way I can delude myself into thinking I'm not   
   > bothered by their rejection.   
      
   Imagination is a fun thing, eh?   
      
      
   >>> You, on the other hand, get your panties in a knot and turn your   
   >>> little nose in the air and play the "I'm too good for you" game the   
   >>> minute anyone dares suggest that you are anything less than a living   
   >>> breathing genius of heretofore unknown magnitude.   
   >>   
   >> You slight my talent and intelligence,   
   >   
   > As well I should. It's a farce, as paper-thin as your fascade of   
   > rebellion and sneering condescension.   
      
      
   Yet I am inarguably smarter than you, John Henry.   
      
   Still scared to do a direct comparison? What have you done with your life,   
   aside from your shit-coloured website?   
      
   >> yet yours isn't on display at all.   
   >   
   > A wise man once said, "There is none so blind as he who will not see."   
      
   And you consider that a wise statement?   
      
   Inapplicable, fallacious, regardless.   
      
   >>> Over the years you've leveled all manner of nonsensical charges at   
   >>> me,   
   >>   
   >> Really?   
   >>   
   >> Refresh my memory.   
   >   
   > Why? It was boring, trite, and contrived then; it will be boring, trite   
   > and contrived now. DYOFDW.   
      
   I see. So you made this part up out of whole cloth.   
      
   But I'd love to hear about these many nonsensical charges I leveled at you.   
      
   Allegedly. What did I just get done telling you about people who lie about   
   me?   
      
   >>> This is another example of what I'm talking about. There's nothing   
   >>> at all wrong with my site,   
   >   
   >> Fucking ass-ugly brown website with no content of interest.   
   >   
   > And yet, nearly fourteen thousand people in the last 30 days have   
   > disagreed with you - that works out to just under 170,000 people a year,   
   > and traffic is steadily rising. If you'd like, I can set my stats to   
   > public and let you see for yourself.   
      
   Psh. So you're saying I got more hits in July of last year than you did in   
   three years? Why does this matter to anyone?   
      
      
   >> It's fucking ugly and pointless. Sorry. I wish you well in your   
   >> web-design forays, but for fuck's sake. Brown?   
   >   
   > I've been in black, white, or blue for nearly a decade, it was time for   
   > something different.   
      
   I always figured you were a beige.   
      
   >>> I'm   
   >>> not. I have not the least bit of hesitation in admitting when I'm   
   >>> wrong, giving credit where it's due, or acknowledging quality work,   
   >>> even if it's done by someone I have little or no respect for.   
   >>   
   >> I, on the other hand, have no interest in fishing for compliments. I   
   >> have done quality work in a number of fields, and I don't really need   
   >> validation from anyone.   
   >   
   > It was YOU who started talking about what an important influence you are   
   > and how many IMPORTANT PERSONS wear yer t-shirts, bub.   
      
   My, but you do exaggerate, eh?   
      
   >>> You, on the other hand, will quite predictably write mine off as   
   >>> 'college rock' or 'derivative crap' or what the fuck ever set of   
   >>> derogatory adjectives rattle out of your sieve...likely without even   
   >>> actually listening to them.   
   >>   
   >> How can I mock you if I don't listen to it?   
   >   
   > Hasn't stopped you so far.   
      
   Nothing can stop me.   
      
   >>> I'm sure that, barring an effort on your part to react to these very   
   >>> words, you'll do the same thing with my songs, in spite of their   
   >>> having been complimented by guys whose guitars you aren't fit to   
   >>> tune.   
   >>   
   >> You really need the support of others, don't you?   
   >   
   > "Need?" No, not really. If I did I wouldn't be such a prick to so many   
   > people. I do, however, appreciate a compliment.   
      
   You're not offensive enough to rate 'prick'.   
      
   >>> For those who are interested, I'll have some music that *won't* make   
   >>> you want to stick forks in your ears available tomorrow night.   
   >>   
   >> Pearl Jam and (who?) are hardly worthwhile inspirations.   
   >   
   > That's the saddest thing about death metal - it pretends to be this   
   > underground, anti-establishment movement thing full of anger and venom,   
   > but it's really just a bunch of little boys who can't hack it playing   
   > anything that requires any finesse or control; just beat up some   
   > instruments and scream about how pissed off you are and call it 'music.'   
      
      
   And you consider yourself a musician? The average DM musician can play   
   anything you can play, but you can't play their stuff. They play fast and   
   intricate material because that Pearl Jam stuff bores them to tears.   
      
      
   > The emotional content is a flat line of pantomimed anger with an   
   > occasional minispike of 'satanic' subreference (depending on your   
   > flavor); the same tired cliches mercilessly hammered into the ground   
   > again and again, each time pretending to be some new and   
   > earth-shattering statement of revolutionary innovation of thought.   
      
   No. Like haiku, it is a difficult medium to be constrained within. Those   
      
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