XPost: rec.music.hip-hop, alt.rap, alt.fan.metal   
   XPost: alt.music.punk   
   From: jasonzc@yahoo.com   
      
   Luca  wrote in news:3152e$443adf36$50db54e5   
   $25274@news.hispeed.ch:   
      
   > Cos360° wrote:   
   >   
   >> think of the use of the phrase "post" in the above context as meaning   
   a   
   >   
   >> diversion from a culture that has been heavily influenced by a   
   preceedi   
   > ng   
   >> era.   
   >   
   > So there are three parties? An era of whatnot, a culture that ensues   
   and   
   > the post-whathaveyou that diverses itself from that culture?   
   > Do you have another example?   
   >   
   >> post-punk rap makes perfect sense, when we have songs like "99   
   Problems   
   > " and   
   >> "One Mic", both songs that highlights raps ability to take on unusual   
   >> cadences and musical styles whilst still keeping it completely   
   consiste   
   > nt   
   >> with its RB music origins   
   >   
   > Post- can more often indicates the wish to break from the preceeding   
   > culture, current, ideology, as a counter-reaction to it, which may mean   
   > the new thing has been influenced by the one before, but not making it   
   > consistent with the antecedent. Not necessarily.   
   > Like post-communism...   
   >   
   > Luca   
      
   I hereby award you with the RMHH honorary PhD. You seem to be sharper   
   than either of the so-called graduates from this group.   
      
   I guess I understand "post-punk" rap as "people who came to rap after   
   being influenced by punk". But punk was a damn long time ago.   
      
   It's sort of funny, of the metalhead rappers I know, including myself,   
   none of us rap over metal, or are even interested in doing so. I heard a   
   death-metal/rap fusion group once, and they didn't seem to do either very   
   well.   
      
   It is an excellent place to mine for lyrics, though.   
      
   "Face to face with your own annihilation   
    My infernal overkill spells eternal devastation   
    Darkness descends, cuz we have arrived   
    ...   
    Killed by dead and an iron fist   
    If Lemmy ever rapped he kick it something like this   
    I send MCs to the curb, like it was trash day   
    The three become one in the tradition of Fastway   
    Phantom of the Opera, Murders in the Rue Morgue   
    My ancient mariner rhymes are takin' over like Borg   
    So fuckin run for the hills, or die with your boots on   
    ..."   
      
   Two Destruction references, two Dark Angel references, four Motorhead   
   references, five Iron Maiden references.   
      
      
      
      
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