From: derekbill@allsummerlong.com   
      
   In article <_hncd.5616$6k2.5189@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>, Greg   
   Heilers  wrote:   
      
   > Loki wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 03:22:46 GMT, Greg Heilers   
   > >  wrote:   
   > >   
   > >>Loki wrote:   
   > >>   
   > >>> On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 21:06:53 GMT, Greg Heilers   
   > >>>  wrote:   
   > >>>   
   > >>>>Loki wrote:   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> However, a "state" is only a block of land if you take away the   
   > >>>>> citizens. And when you take the citizens into consideration, the   
   > >>>>> electoral college gives, as pointed out above, greater weight to the   
   > >>>>> say of some of the citizens than to others. And personally, as a   
   > >>>>> citizen of California, it pisses me off that my say in who gets chosen   
   > >>>>> as President only counts about a third as much as that of an Alaskan.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> Loki   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>So, does this mean, that it bothers you that the political weight   
   > >>>>of your Ms. Boxer, and Ms. Feinstein, is not worth more than the   
   > >>>>political weight of the two Senators from Alaska?   
   > >>>   
   > >>> We are not discussing the Senate though but rather the Electoral   
   > >>> College. If you cannot stay on topic, perhaps I have wasted enough   
   > >>> time on you.   
   > >>>   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Loki   
   > >>   
   > >>We were discussing the concept of the weight of your vote, being in   
   > >>proportion to the population of your state.  Each of your Senator's votes,   
   > >>in issues on the Senate floor, is of no heavier weight, than the votes   
   > >>of each of Alaska's Senators.  This is *exactly* the same concept as   
   > >>the state representation facet of the Electoral College.  It is all part   
   > >>of the *same* topic.  It is "checks and balances" between those who   
   > >>advocate political power based solely on population distribution, and   
   > >>those who advocate equality between state identities.   
   > >   
   > > Fine. My vote for Senator counts as much as any other Californian   
   > > voting for Senator. My vote for Representative counts as much as that   
   > > of anyone else in my district.   
   > >   
   > > As long as the Electoral College remains in place the same cannot be   
   > > said of my vote for President.   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > Loki   
   >   
   > But...your Senators' votes in the Seanate, are worth the same weight   
   > as those of the Senators' from Alaska.  Ms. Boxer and Ms. Feinstein   
   > represent your state, and therefore, indirectly, you.  The same with the   
   > Alaskan Senators, and the people of Alaska.  In a Senate vote, that deals   
   > with a policy/program/bill that affects California; the people of Alaska   
   > have the same vote-weight as the people of California; despite having   
   > probably 1/100th the population.  And the Legislative Branch is where the   
   > *real* power lies.  That is where the policies that actually affect you,   
   > come into existence, and come to pass.  So, if you are concerned that your   
   > vote in the Presidential election, is being short-valued...then why does   
   > your concern not extend to the Senate?   
      
      
   This whole issue can be resolved very easily. Just move to Alaska.   
      
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