From: derekbill@allsummerlong.com   
      
   In article <10130-41724EE4-2@storefull-3137.bay.webtv.net>, Doug   
   Burrell  wrote:   
      
   >  >From: "Derek A. Bill"   
   > > derekbill@allsummerlong.com   
   >   
   > (After a slew of impressive sounding psycho-babble...)   
   >   
   > >>Those who voted for Bush last time can be   
   > >> forgiven only because the first shame goes   
   > >> to the man who will tell any lie (assuing he   
   > >> can even string a series of words together to   
   > >> complete a sentence) to get elected. Now   
   > >> that this is obvious to people with wisdom,   
   > >> clarity, and courage, the shame will go to   
   > >> those who vote for him this time. Again,   
   > >> those who don't learn from their mistakes   
   > >> are doomed to repeat them. Whether he   
   > >> keeps his job or not, I suspect time will judge   
   > >> his supporters as harshly as the man   
   > >> himself. Some people still pride themselves   
   > >> for supporting the confederacy, and most of   
   > >> us think they're morons. Personally, I'm   
   > >> happy to let those cold, dead hands hold on   
   > >> to their guns, as a reminder that nothing dies   
   > >> harder than bad tradition.   
   >   
   > >>But that's just my opinion, and I could be   
   > >> wrong. That's something I'm sure we can all   
   > >> agree on.   
   >   
   > >>Derek   
   >   
   > Then shame on this redneck from North Carolina.    Of course, since I   
   > have no wisdom, clarity or courage (you're starting to sound like my   
   > mother Derek), I reckon' some folks will forgive me.  Being a "hillbilly   
   > redneck" from the south, I just don't know no better.   
      
   At least you're a real hillbilly, instead of a Yalee who adopted a Ross   
   Perot persona because the man beat your dad.   
      
   >   
   > The problem with liberals is that if you disagree with them, they call   
   > you stupid, barbaric, fascist and anything other degrading name they can   
   > think of in an attempt to make themselves sound more enlightened.   
      
   Personally, i do it to get their attention.  I don't think it makes me   
   sound any more or less enlightened.  Okay, maybe less.   
      
   The problem with liberals is that they've allowed someone to smear them   
   with the permanent ink of nonsense. Liberals are responsible for civil   
   rights, child labor laws, and safety nets for the poor and elderly.   
   They're heroes, but they're victims of their own success.  A generation   
   or two later, nobody remembers what it was like before those damned   
   liberals worked so hard to eliminate civilization's most serious woes.   
   So instead of focusing on the benefit (now taken for granted) the focus   
   is now on the cost.   
      
   > There   
   > are wackos on the right and the left, but the majority of folks who will   
   > vote for either Kerry or Bush are reasonable, intelligent folks who want   
   > what's best for themselves and their family.   
      
   If you have statistics that show the majority of Bush voters are   
   reasonable, i'd like to see them.   
      
   > To dismiss them as   
   > ignorant and shameful because they vote differently than you, shows an   
   > incredible intolerance to other's views. It amazes me.   
      
   If i dismiss them, it's not because they're ignorant, it's because   
   they're proud of their simplicity.  Not because they're shameful, but   
   because they're shameless. They go to a church that calls itself   
   Christian while ignoring His (I'm capitalizing that because i think he   
   was a great teacher, not because I think he's supernatural) gospel.   
   It's practically Orwellian.   
      
   I'm tolerant of these views I see as misguided, and I will defend your   
   right to be 'wrong'. I do not think you're going to go to hell, and I   
   do not think you're helping Osama by voting for Bush.  I do, however,   
   think you're gonna have lots of 'splainin to do, perhaps for the rest   
   of your life.   
      
   > I will vote for President Bush.  Not because I hate Kerry or because I   
   > think Bush is right on everything.  And, not because I live in a   
   > "backwards" state.  Hell, we're the ones responsible for John Edwards.   
   > I'll vote my conscience.  That's all you can axe of anyone.  I would   
   > expect a liberal to be a bit more sensitive of his fellow man.   
      
   I think morons and idiots deserve as much respect as anyone. I even   
   think they should have a right to vote. And I take note of the fact   
   that you're from North Carolina, a vastly superior state than its   
   Southern neighbor.   
      
   > I'm not   
   > a racist, homophobe, war-monger or any other title you applied to   
   > conservatives.  I'm just a goofy guy who thinks for himself (granted,   
   > that can be scary) and has decided that my vote is for G.W.   
      
   Does it not bother you that you're voting for the same man that the   
   racists, homophobes, and warmongers are voting for?   
      
      
   > Having said that, Derek, none of this is meant as an insult to you or   
   > your views.  You know I enjoy your posts and I think you're a very   
   > intelligent person.  We may not agree on politics, but can we at least   
   > agree that "All we need is 'Looking Back with' Love"!   
      
   Fair enough. At times like this I understand why it's good advice not   
   to discuss politics or religion in mixed company.   
      
   And i'm sorry if i've offended anyone. My quandary is that when i read   
   posts that I feel go too far, i feel the need to respond in kind. Then   
   perhaps i go too far. I don't know for sure.....only time will tell.   
      
   And by the way....listen to your Mother.   
      
   > Doug   
   >   
      
      
   Derek   
      
      
   P.S. I hope your vote is counted. I really mean that.   
      
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