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   Derek A. Bill to Heilers   
   Re: I'm startin' to LIKE Kerry   
   17 Oct 04 22:43:54   
   
   From: derekbill@allsummerlong.com   
      
   In article , Greg   
   Heilers  wrote:   
      
   > The point that should never be forgotten....in any part of this thread...   
   > is that this healthy discussion of competing ideologies is a *good* thing.   
   > People seem to *always* gripe when a news group thread turns to politics.   
   >   
   > B.S. -- for two reasons alone:   
   >   
   > 1)  Most, if not all, of us...in social settings of two or more people;   
   > *always* steer the discussion to politics.  No matter what the reason for   
   > the gathering.  Shoot...in every gathering of scale modelers, and historical   
   > miniaturists, I have been involved with....95% of the discussion is always   
   > about politics.  I have even run into a Liberal person, once, in my 25 year   
   > involvement in the hobby  (but he was a "yellow dog", being that way out of   
   > tradition, not because he actually BELIEVED in what they say...lol)...If   
   > you find yourself amidst a group of people who *don't* eventually discuss   
   > political matters....RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!...as you have run across one of   
   > them thar "undecideds", or "who cares?" types.  Escape now, lest their   
   > "abandonment of their civic duty" might rub off on you...lol.   
   >   
   > 2)  I am surprised (pleasantly, though), that no one here has replied with   
   > the cliched "Politics has no business being on a Beach Boys news group"   
   > answer.  It should be re-pointed out, that David Leaf's "official" liner   
   > notes in the now "official" release of SMiLE....delves into politics,   
   > namely the political climate of the 1966-1967 era of the earliest SMiLE   
   > sessions.  So, in a way...political discussion has been "officially"   
   > been made a part of SMiLE.   
      
   I suspect they're taking one look at the subject line and avoiding it   
   like the plague.   
      
   I'm in a swing state, and I've NEVER seen anything like the endless   
   stream of TV ads. It's like some kind of psychology experiment you'd   
   expect to see on The Twilight Zone.   
      
   Derek   
      
   >   
   > :o)   
      
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