From: derekbill@allsummerlong.com   
      
   In article <_wefd.7137$KJ6.5455@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>, Greg   
   Heilers  wrote:   
      
   > john spencer wrote:   
   >   
   > >   
   > >   
   > >> 3)  they even reproduced the little "creaking" noise in surf's up!   
   > >> whenever i heard the '71 surf's up in headphones there was that one   
   > >> spot where i wondered if it was on the recording or if i had just   
   > >> moved in my chair.  i was surprised to have the duplicate experience   
   > >> the other day with the new cd.   
   > >   
   > > Very interesting.  I think what you are referring too, at about 54 seconds   
   > > into the song, is actually the horn.  Just before the horns play one of   
   > > them   
   > > does a croak.  It DOES sound like a chair being dragged across the floor   
   > > but   
   > > it's a horn.  Maybe a horn player out there  can explain what that sound   
   > > is.   
   >   
   > I seem to remember, back in high school jazz band (I played trumpet), that   
   > we referred to it as a "rip".  But that was just our term for it.  It is   
   > neat, though, that the very same thing was done by the horn players in the   
   > original 1966 session.   
   >   
   > > It's sort of a trill.  If you can seek out some of the "George fell in to   
   > > his French horn" excerpts you will hear a lot of the experimenting that   
   > > went   
   > > on.  At least I think this is what you are talking about.   
   > >   
   > > I also am amazed at how well everything was duplicated.  A few of the   
   > > things that are lacking are the dynamics in Cabin Essence and the   
   > > "wildness" of   
   > > Fire.  The Iron Horse sections of Cabin Essence used to really leap out of   
   > > the song with a lot of force.  And Fire sounds more like you're watching   
   > > the fire from across the street as opposed to being inside of a burning   
   > > building.  All in all I love this album.   
      
   I agree with this 100%. Cabinessence is the only song where I really   
   miss the original vocals.  Between Carl's lead and Brian's original   
   pristine falsetto on the doing doing doing part, the new one just   
   doesn't quite do it for me  like the old one did.   
      
   As for Fire, I'm glad they left the crackling sounds out. But the cello   
   work in the 60s version sounds much more like real flames to me, right   
   in my face almost, as compared to the new version.   
      
   Having said all that, lots of this stuff is like the various 60s   
   versions of Good Vibrations...I like all of them, though they're   
   different. I still think that version with Carl sounding like a wildman   
   has missed its market, and wish someone could maybe license that for a   
   soundtrack, advertisement, or some other thing where it would get some   
   more exposure.   
      
      
   > > Sort of off topic:  Album sounds that are of note.  In the song Trader   
   > > there   
   > > is a "Hi" at the beginning of the record.   
   >   
   > Has it ever been noted, just *who* this kid was?   
      
   I believe it's Jonah Wilson, Carl's eldest (?)   
      
   MDH will know this.   
      
   >   
   > > I remember one time laying   
   > > naked in bed with my girlfriend after having you know, done the deed, I   
   > > put that   
   > > record on and my girlfriend sat up and said "OH My God!"  because she   
   > > somehow thought a child had wandered in to the room and said "Hi".  It was   
   > > too funny.  Anybody out there know of Laurie Anderson?  There is a song I   
   > > can't remember now where a phone rings.  I would play this song at parties   
   > > and people ALL the time would look at me and say "Uh, you going to answer   
   > > the phone or what?!"   
   > >   
   > > John   
      
   I can't get over all the songs on the radio these days with sirens in   
   them. I remember back in the day, you couldn't play that stuff on the   
   radio, else people would think they were being pulled over or needed to   
   get out of the way of a fire truck or ambulance.   
      
   Let's also not forget (though this is a bit off topic) that songs like   
   "The Little Girl I Once Knew" got less airplay because of the pauses.   
   That one and "Heroes & Villains" I've both heard interrupted by a DJ   
   thinking he'd missed his cue.   
      
   Derek   
      
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