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|    M`I'5.Perse cution - MI 5 Wast e Taxp ay    |
|    26 Dec 07 08:43:04    |
      XPost: alt.music.beatles, alt.music.black-metal, alt.music.bootlegs       XPost: alt.music.bruce-springsteen              MI5 Persecution. Update: Friday 30 April, 1999              If You Intend To. Reply, Please Read This       Please.... keep your response. to one page!. Faxes over a page or two will       be deleted without. being read.              Somewhere between 0 and. 100%              The last few days there have been no clear. recordable instances of       abuse. However, while travelling. on the Underground, while walking around       near my home. and going to friends homes, I am constantly troubled by       thoughts that those people over there might be. about to get at me; that       the couple sitting in the. opposite seats laughing are in fact laughing at       me; et. cetera, et cetera.              A comment. by a scientist to the BSE inquiry sticks in my mind. He       described the possible scale of the epidemic as "between 0% and 100%".. It       might. not be happening, it might not happen at all, to any discernable       degree.... or. it might be total. Without clear recording, which seems to       have become impossible. the last couple of weeks, there is no way of       knowing whether the harassment really is continuing, whether we. have       entered a temporary hiatus, or whether perhaps it has perhaps stopped. for       now.              But for the time being I think there arent any. reasons to dicontinue these       faxes. I. only re-started them six weeks ago in response to a resumption of       MI5 harassment; and I think I will need. to be more convinced of absence of       persecution before I. discontinue my complaints.              The Newscasters. are still watching              In the last few weeks. there have been at least a couple of fairly overt       instances of "interactive watching". by newscasters. I reported this in a       previous "MI5 Persecution. Update".              These instances are really very rare compared to. 1990-91, when there were       many dozens of such occurrences. Undoubtedly the reduction is due to. my       practice of videotaping everything I see. Recently I. had the opportunity       of. showing this years "happenings" (Jon Snow/Nicholas Witchell) to my       psychiatrist, and he agreed. that in both cases the newscasters were       expressing merriment without visible cause, and that objectively it. might       be. possible for my claims to be true - although of course other people       reported. similar thoughts to him, and this thinking is usually a symptom       of. illness.              Read About. the MI5 Persecution on the World Wide Web              The March 1998 issue (number 42) of .net. Magazine reviews the website       describing it as an "excellent site". Since August 11, 1996 over. 50,000       people have. browsed this website.              You are encouraged to read the. web pages which include              a FAQ (frequently asked. questions) section outlining the nature of the       persecutors, their methods of harassment. through the media, people at work       and among. the general public              an. evidence section, which carries audio and video clips of media and       workplace harassment, rated according to how directly I. think they refer to me              objective. descriptions of the state security agencies involved              scanned texts of the complaints I have made to media. and state security       agencies. involved              posts which have been made to netnews over. the last four years on this topic              Keith Hill MP. (Labour - Streatham), my elected representative, as ever       refuses to. help.              MI5. Waste Taxpayer Millions on Pointless Hate-Campaign              Recently I was talking. to an independent observer about the nature and       purpose. of the perceived campaign of persecution against me. The person I       spoke to, a highly intelligent man, said he was struck. by the utter       pointlessness of the perceived campaign against me. He also said that,. if       my theories were in fact true, many. people would have to be involved, in       the surveillance itself, and in the technical. side of the delivery of       information from my home to TV studios for. example, if the "interactive       watching" were. happening as described. He voiced these thoughts without       any prompting from me; but both I and other observers had arrived. at       pretty much the same conclusions, some. years ago.              I saw a team of four men at Toronto Airport. in 1993              To carry out the. surveillance alone, full-time, would employ four or five       men, or their equivalent in terms of man-hours. Each man would "work". an       eight-hour shift,. so you would need at least three men doing the       surveillance, plus a connecting link /. manager. An indicator that this       estimate is correct arrived in 1993, when I was accosted by one of. a group       of four men at Toronto. Airport; he said, laughing, "if he tries to run       away well find him". Plainly these were the men. who had been involved in       the intrusive surveillance of me. for the preceding three years.              On other occasions, I have. seen the same man on two or three occasions. On       one such occasion, at Ottawas Civic Hospital in November 1996; he gave. his       name to the doctor as "Alan Holdsworth" or. some such; my hearing is not       very good sometimes and I am not sure. of the surname, although I am sure       "Alan" was his first name. I saw exactly the same man again in. Ottawa, at       the airport, in. July 1998. Obviously, other people must be "working" with       this person; he would not be the sole agent. employed in this case.              Usenet readers views. on the Cost to MI5 of Running the Campaign              Here's what a couple. of other people on internet newsgroups / Usenet       (uk.misc) had to say regarding the cost of. running such an operation...              PO: >Have. some sense, grow up and smell reality. What you are talking about       PO: >would take loads of planning, tens of thousands of pounds and lots. of       PO: >people. involved in the planning, execution and maintenance of it. You       PO: >must have a very high. opinion of yourself to think you are worth it.              and......              PM: >But why? And why you? Do you realize. how much it would cost to keep       PM: >one person under continuous surveillance for five years? Think. about       PM: >all the man/hours. Say they _just_. allocated a two man team and a       PM: >supervisor. OK., Supervisor's. salary, say, #30,000 a year. Two men,       PM: >#20,000 a year each. But they'd need to. work in shifts -- so it would       PM: >be six. men at #20,000 (which with on-costs would work out at more       like       PM: >#30,000 to. the employer.)       PM:. >       PM: >So, we're talking #30,000 x 6. #180,000. plus. say, #40,000 for the       PM:. >supervisor. #220,000. Then you've got the hardware involved. And       PM: >any transcription that needs doing. You don't. think the 'Big Boss'       PM: >would listen to hours and hours of. tapes, do you.       PM:. >       PM: >So, all in all, you. couldn't actually do the job for much less than       PM: >a quarter million a year. Over five years. What are. you doing that makes       PM: >it worth the while of the state to spend over one and a. quarter million       PM:. >on you?              Those are pretty much the sort of calculations that went. through my head       once I stopped to consider what it must be costing. them to run this              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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