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   From: dont@do.it   
      
   27.2.2011 0:19, Joe Ramirez kirjoitti:   
   > On Feb 26, 4:36 pm, John Doherty  wrote:   
   >>> On Feb 26, 11:23 am, John Doherty  wrote:   
   >>>> In the 1990s, the Grateful Dead were the top touring band in the world   
   >>>> in terms of money made for 3 out of the first five years of the   
   >>>> decade. So in the end, even if you personally think they suck, it   
   >>>> doesn't matter-- their place in history as the greatest American rock   
   >>>> and roll  band is secure.   
   >> On Feb 26, 2:57 pm, Joe Ramirez  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> Non sequitur. Who cares how much money they made?   
   >> My point is directed at those for whom they hold no special charm.   
   >> they can not be dismissed from consideration strictly because they   
   >> don't float your boat   
   > I wouldn't dismiss them for that reason. I would dismiss them as an   
   > all-time great candidate because their *musical* legacy is too small.   
   > They affected a core following deeply, but everyone else only lightly,   
   > or not at all. You yourself pointed out that you wouldn't expect a   
   > nonfan to be familiar with more than about two Dead songs. You think   
   > that's true of the Beatles, Stones, or Zeppelin, even for people who   
   > can't stand them?   
   >   
   >> The Dead's appeal in the 90s was probably distorted by all their fans   
   >> who would see multiple shows-- sometimes a whole tour. Even if they   
   >> sold more tickets, the second act in those years may well have played   
   >> before more unique fans.   
   >>   
   >> But that is part of the value the band delivered to its audience. I   
   >> never did a whole tour, but I did five shows in a row once in the 80s.   
   >> And I only heard a repeat song on the 5th night.   
   > Yes, they were a mega-cult band -- perhaps the greatest cult band   
   > ever, if fan loyalty is the measure. But "the greatest American rock   
   > and roll band"? I don't see any kind of case for that.   
      
   Frankly I'm struggling to even recall any of their songs...   
      
   Maybe they're like Citizen Kane...once they achieve a status they'll   
   stay there forever regardless of their actual achievements/lack of.   
   That's cult status all right.   
      
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