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   Message 456 of 1,606   
   Keith Willshaw to Dan   
   Re: Hitlers declaration of war on USA vi   
   11 May 11 22:55:11   
   
   XPost: soc.culture.usa, alt.fan.adolf-hitler, rec.arts.movies.current-films   
   XPost: rec.aviation.military   
   From: keithnospam@demon.co.uk   
      
   Dan wrote:   
   > On 5/11/2011 3:17 PM, Keith Willshaw wrote:   
   >> Keith Willshaw wrote:   
   >>> The Starmaker wrote:   
   >>>> deemsbill@aol.com wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>     Since 1776? Well under one million.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I don't understand...   
   >>>> there was a hundred million people in China in 1776, why   
   >>>> couldn't there be a hundred million people in America in 1776?   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Because China was a long established Agrarian society   
   >>> that had sophisticated farming techniques, had excellent   
   >>> metallurgical skills and a stable well ordered society.   
   >>>   
   >>> Pre Columbian North America was largely populated by   
   >>> nomadic hunter gatherers who were living in the neolithic   
   >>> had almost no domesticated animals.   
   >>>   
   >>> Only in Central and South America were there the   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> To continue   
   >>   
   >> Only in Central and South America were there the situations similar   
   >> but even there the Aztec, Maya and Inca were still in the stone age.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Keith   
   >>   
   >>   
   >   
   >  Not technically correct. While they didn't have the wheel, they did   
   > have metallurgy.   
   >   
   > Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired   
      
   Its my understanding that copper artefacts have been found in North America   
   but they were found to be hammered from native copper rather than smelted.   
      
   The Incas in South America seem to have had fully developed copper   
   metallurgy   
   but they were rather rare in this aspect. The Aztecs seemed to understand   
   the technology of smelting and produced bronze but was not in widespread   
   use and seems not to have been used for any utiltarian purposes.  In fact it   
   appears that they were adding tin to copper not because of its mechanical   
   properties but because of the golden colour it produced.   
      
   The Aztec warriors were equipped with wooden clubs studded with   
   obsidian blades and the knives found used obsidian and flint blades.   
      
   The Inca on the other hand used copper blades as well as stone.   
      
   The tribes of South West USA such as the Navajo and Hopi learned   
   metallurgy from the Spanish.   
      
   Keith   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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