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   From: keithnospam@demon.co.uk   
      
   The Starmaker wrote:   
   > Dan wrote:   
   >>   
   >> On 5/11/2011 4:55 PM, Keith Willshaw wrote:   
   >>> Dan wrote:   
   >>>> On 5/11/2011 3:17 PM, Keith Willshaw wrote:   
   >>>>> Keith Willshaw wrote:   
   >>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:   
   >>>>>>> deemsbill@aol.com wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>      Since 1776? Well under one million.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I don't understand...   
   >>>>>>> there was a hundred million people in China in 1776, why   
   >>>>>>> couldn't there be a hundred million people in America in 1776?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Because China was a long established Agrarian society   
   >>>>>> that had sophisticated farming techniques, had excellent   
   >>>>>> metallurgical skills and a stable well ordered society.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Pre Columbian North America was largely populated by   
   >>>>>> nomadic hunter gatherers who were living in the neolithic   
   >>>>>> had almost no domesticated animals.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Only in Central and South America were there the   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> To continue   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Only in Central and South America were there the situations   
   >>>>> similar but even there the Aztec, Maya and Inca were still in the   
   >>>>> stone age.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Keith   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   Not technically correct. While they didn't have the wheel, they   
   >>>> did have metallurgy.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired   
   >>>   
   >>> Its my understanding that copper artefacts have been found in North   
   >>> America but they were found to be hammered from native copper   
   >>> rather than smelted.   
   >>>   
   >>> The Incas in South America seem to have had fully developed copper   
   >>> metallurgy   
   >>> but they were rather rare in this aspect. The Aztecs seemed to   
   >>> understand the technology of smelting and produced bronze but was   
   >>> not in widespread use and seems not to have been used for any   
   >>> utiltarian purposes.  In fact it appears that they were adding tin   
   >>> to copper not because of its mechanical properties but because of   
   >>> the golden colour it produced.   
   >>>   
   >>> The Aztec warriors were equipped with wooden clubs studded with   
   >>> obsidian blades and the knives found used obsidian and flint blades.   
   >>>   
   >>> The Inca on the other hand used copper blades as well as stone.   
   >>>   
   >>> The tribes of South West USA such as the Navajo and Hopi learned   
   >>> metallurgy from the Spanish.   
   >>>   
   >>> Keith   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>    They had gold too.   
   >>   
   >> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired   
   >   
   >   
   > It doesn't take copper, gold, wheels, etc to make a hundred million   
   > people...   
      
   But it does to feed them.   
      
   Keith   
      
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