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   From: skelton.peter@gmail.com   
      
   On 22/05/2011 6:08 AM, Dean Markley wrote:   
   > On May 22, 4:54 am, Eunometic  wrote:   
   >> On May 19, 9:54 pm, Peter Skelton  wrote:   
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   >>> On 19/05/2011 12:57 AM, Eunometic wrote:>  On May 14, 3:46 am, Dean   
   Markley    wrote:   
   >>>>> On May 13, 11:05 am, eunome...@yahoo.com.au wrote:   
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   >>>>> That was a key mistake on his part.  Actually building such ships as   
   >>>>> Bismarck was pointless.  It was a First World War design and   
   >>>>> essentially obsolete for a raiding purpose.   
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   >>>> Not true.   
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   >>> Correct. No ship of the line was ever satisfactory as a raider. They   
   >>> cost too much and cover too little ocean.   
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   >>>>> The Germans could have   
   >>>>> gotten many more u-boats for that huge expenditure.- Hide quoted text -   
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   >>>> Not true.   
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   >>>> The Bismark was designed to outfight anything it couldn't outrun and   
   >>>> to outrun anything it couldn't out fight.   
   >>>> It was faster than the KGV class it could outfight such lightweights   
   >>>> as the Battlecruiser Hood.   
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   >>> The problem was outrunning aircraft. As soon as it became practical to   
   >>> stuff radar into an aircraft, surface warship raiders were toast.   
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   >>>> The claim that it was out of date is based on the Germans not   
   >>>> accepting the 'all or nothing' armour theory.   
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   >>> >> anyone interested in a more educated analysis should go to nihon   
   >>> kaigun's pages>   
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   >> Too bad he knows little to nothing about German radar, night fighting   
   >> optics and compares an 1941 battleship (Bismark) against 1943   
   >> battleships when Tirpitz could have been used.   
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   > More of your what-if arguments.  Yet Tirpitz never emerged because the   
   > Germans knew she would be put under rapidly by an opponent such as USS   
   > Washington.   
      
   I've been away a few days. Anyone accusing the authors of that reference   
   (or me for that matter) Is as insane as someone trying to switch the   
   topic from armour to radar but no quite as rabidly mad as someone trying   
   to pretend German 1943 naval radar was in the same class as what the   
   allies were fielding at that time.   
      
   Of course, insanity never stopped euro.   
      
      
      
   --   
   Peter   
      
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