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   Message 795 of 1,606   
   Daryl to Eunometic   
   Re: OT: Many Chinese were in Nazi German   
   26 Oct 11 09:20:02   
   
   ce5e42a7   
   XPost: rec.aviation.military   
   From: dhunt@nospami70west3.com   
      
   On 10/26/2011 1:06 AM, Eunometic wrote:   
   > On Oct 18, 1:17 pm, "David E. Powell"   
   > wrote:   
   >> OK I guess it isn't a gimmick with this guy. (Mark.)   
   >>   
   >> Germany and China had an alliance of cooperation that predated the   
   >> alliance with Japan. It was probably one of the reasons why a German   
   >> Doctor at Nanking who tried to help Chinese civilians and then tried   
   >> to get his government to sanction Japan after the massacre there was   
   >> shocked when Hitler rejected his attempt.   
   >   
   > John Rabe was a full Nazi party member, he was a seniour manager of   
   > the Siemens Electrical engineering company in China.   
   >   
   > He created the Nanking Safety Zone, plastered it with Nazi Swastikas,   
   > to keep the Japanese out.  He saved thousands of chinese lives despite   
   > this   
   > may women within the zone were raped and sometimes murdered.  At one   
   > point he confronted some Japanese soldiers intent on no-good and   
   > forced them   
   > to climb out the way they came in.   
   >   
   > He was regarded as 'naive' but he wrote letters to Chancellor Hitler   
   > asking for his intercesion on behalf of the Chinese.   
   >   
   > National Socialism seemed like a good idea:  unlike communism it   
   > promised to harmonise capital and labour for the common good of the   
   > people.   
   > It promised an end to destructive class conflicts and the counter   
   > cultural corrosion of social values that communism and sopcialism had   
   > shown lead to genocides such as that in the Russia and latter the   
   > Ukrain, it blended capitalism with socialis though government.  It   
   > promised a fair go to the worker, small business mann holidays,health   
   > etc so a lot of people went for it.   
      
   Promised but never delivered what it promised.  Instead, it   
   delivered exactly what it claimed to be against.  Don't go by   
   what they say, go by what they do.   
      
      
   >   
   >   
   >>   
   >> I met a guy who had toured late 1930s Germany. He was from America and   
   >> one of his tour party members at the time was black. When people in   
   >> Germany saw him they thought he was a foreign prince of some sort and   
   >> welcomed him. African or Middle Eastern blacks were seen in a good   
   >> light though propaganda in Germany at the time was hostile to American   
   >> ones. Also not all Germans fit the stereotype they get pegged with.   
   >> There were some who saw bad things coming in the dogma of the time.   
   >   
   > Visitors and minorites are invariably welcomed and treated cordially   
   > and with interest in most coutries.  They can go to school and make   
   > friends.   
   >   
   > It's 'sometimes' when they become large in number, when they become a   
   > troublesome low grade culture or low end cognitive group or a hostile   
   > elite that the problems start.   
   >   
   > If you played cowboys and Indians in Germany during hitlers time the   
   > German children prefered to be Indians than cowboys as due to the   
   > novels of Karl May it was the indiants that were the good, noble ones.   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >>   
   >> The guy who toured Germany was named Dr. Franklin H. Littell. Wish you   
   >> could have met him.   
   >>   
   >> He returned to Germany after the war as well.   
   >>   
   >> http://www.ccjr.us/news/in-memoriam/553-franklin-littell   
   >>   
   >>    
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