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   From: dhunt@nospami70west3.com   
      
   On 10/28/2011 9:21 PM, Eunometic wrote:   
   > On Oct 27, 2:20 am, Daryl  wrote:   
   >> On 10/26/2011 1:06 AM, Eunometic wrote:   
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   >>> On Oct 18, 1:17 pm, "David E. Powell"   
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>> OK I guess it isn't a gimmick with this guy. (Mark.)   
   >>   
   >>>> Germany and China had an alliance of cooperation that predated the   
   >>>> alliance with Japan. It was probably one of the reasons why a German   
   >>>> Doctor at Nanking who tried to help Chinese civilians and then tried   
   >>>> to get his government to sanction Japan after the massacre there was   
   >>>> shocked when Hitler rejected his attempt.   
   >>   
   >>> John Rabe was a full Nazi party member, he was a seniour manager of   
   >>> the Siemens Electrical engineering company in China.   
   >>   
   >>> He created the Nanking Safety Zone, plastered it with Nazi Swastikas,   
   >>> to keep the Japanese out.  He saved thousands of chinese lives despite   
   >>> this   
   >>> may women within the zone were raped and sometimes murdered.  At one   
   >>> point he confronted some Japanese soldiers intent on no-good and   
   >>> forced them   
   >>> to climb out the way they came in.   
   >>   
   >>> He was regarded as 'naive' but he wrote letters to Chancellor Hitler   
   >>> asking for his intercesion on behalf of the Chinese.   
   >>   
   >>> National Socialism seemed like a good idea:  unlike communism it   
   >>> promised to harmonise capital and labour for the common good of the   
   >>> people.   
   >>> It promised an end to destructive class conflicts and the counter   
   >>> cultural corrosion of social values that communism and sopcialism had   
   >>> shown lead to genocides such as that in the Russia and latter the   
   >>> Ukrain, it blended capitalism with socialis though government.  It   
   >>> promised a fair go to the worker, small business mann holidays,health   
   >>> etc so a lot of people went for it.   
   >>   
   >> Promised but never delivered what it promised.  Instead, it   
   >> delivered exactly what it claimed to be against.  Don't go by   
   >> what they say, go by what they do.   
   >   
   > The mess that has become of the UK and USA suggest that the bigger   
   > mess in the long run was created by Churchill and Roosvelt.   
      
   In the short run, you buddies did more damage and cost more lives   
   and suffering than all of history combined.  Sounds like the   
   proper people won and the proper people lost.  History says as well.   
      
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