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|    ana1ana2@yahoo.com to rforman61@msn.com    |
|    Re: Becker vs Herington    |
|    08 Sep 06 23:59:11    |
      Listen to them trade off on "Green Book". Especially the synth solo -       that's Don, I believe, and it burns.              On 8 Sep 2006 09:46:05 -0700, rforman61@msn.com wrote:              >       >Dave M wrote:       >> > I waffle on Becker's soloing. Sometimes I find Becker's approach to       >> > lead guitar charming and unique; at other times his solos strike me as       >> > earsores that don't belong among all those polished performances.       >>       >> Thank you.       >>       >> > Other people are far less charitable; I know someone who believes       >> > Becker's solo ruins "Josie."       >>       >> That's harsh, but I can understand it. His solo is wimpy       >> compared to the amazing controlled-yet-burning groove of       >> that song, propelled by Jim Keltner's drumming. And I'm not       >> even referring to his choice of notes--they're actually       >> quite nice; I'm taking about execution and tone.       >       >That says it all right there. I agree wholeheartedly with the general       >sentiment that Becker's lead guitar work doesn't compare with       >Herrington's or that of some of the superstars from the 70's Dan       >records (or from the last decade+ of SD tours). His whole lead       >approach, to my ears, is based on "choice of notes" and they're       >perfectly fine, better than that, he seems to want to demonstrate to us       >and himself that he knows how to improvise legitmate and interesting       >jazz- and bebop-influenced lines over chord changes. But he only seems       >to me to play the notes, not to play the tone, the articulation, the       >dynamics, like the other real lead specialists do. The sequences of       >notes in his solos and fills are perfectly jazzy (if I heard somebody       >doing them in a bar band I'd be wowed) but they're pretty much all at       >the same volume with the same timbre.       >       >I recently bought, and listened to once, the cd of Don and Walt's       >appearance on the Piano Jazz radio program, they talk about jazz and       >perform a few numbers with their own rhythm section and the show's       >host, Marian McPartland, sitting in on piano. I remain convinced that       >as much as I admire their songwriting, arranging and record-production       >skills and their persona and sense of humor, neither of these guys is       >anywhere near as advanced and competent as jazz musicians, as any of       >their sidemen on record and on the stage, I think they're both a little       >amateurish in comparison (I still love them though!). I haven't heard       >much that indicates that Donald can really improvise instrumentally at       >all!       >       >richforman              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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