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   "diane"  wrote in message   
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   > Egil wrote:   
   >> it seemed blindly, from on high. "Well we are their proletariat, ain't   
   >> we,"   
   >> snarled Darby, "the fools that do their 'dirty work' for next to nothing?   
   >   
   > Sounds like a direct lift to me!   
   >   
   > And what about "Scarsdale Vibe, "the most ruthless of the mine owners"   
   > and "a caricature of capitalist evil?"   
   >   
   > It's a stretch, but imagine if Pynchon just let his subconscious absorb   
   > everything he hears and sees and spits it back out?   
   >   
      
   Yeah, that seems to be exactly what he does, and in vast patterns, unnerving   
   and beautiful. And although I don't think I've heard Becker and/or Fagen   
   mention Pynchon as an influence, there has always, since I tripped over The   
   Crying of Lot 49 and V. in the '80s, been a connection in my mind between   
   the the two (or, rather, three) - maybe it has to do with taking that beat   
   sensibility and running with it, matching it with other sensibilities along   
   the way, kind of pathetic, really - in a sweet, stubborn, heroic fuck-you   
   kind of way - because it's so widely regarded as a lost cause, an obsolete   
   view of the world, or worse: Colonized and corrupted by the powers that be.   
   They do have in common a soft spot for the losers in the world, that's for   
   sure.   
      
   Egil   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)