home bbs files messages ]

Forums before death by AOL, social media and spammers... "We can't have nice things"

   alt.music.steely-dan      More than just a funky pair of dildos      2,181 messages   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]

   Message 1,615 of 2,181   
   Jake Wildstrom to drsmith666@aol.com   
   Re: What is your opinion of FOUND STUDIO   
   05 Jun 08 20:13:43   
   
   41707ddc   
   From: dwildstr@erdos.math.louisville.edu   
      
   In article ,   
   The Space Boss   wrote:   
   >On May 31, 4:22 pm, PGE  wrote:   
   >> I guess you're referring to yet another repackaging of those   
   >> pre-SteelyDandemos that Walter wrote about a few years back:   
      
   >Thank you for the info. Is this the same thing?   
      
   Yup (also known as the "Catalyst demos", for whatever reason). And   
   they even got some of the titles wrong (admittedly, there's a certain   
   subjectivity in what the "right" title is for an unreleased song, but   
   these aren't them).   
      
   >   1. Brain Shuffle 3:11 $0.99   
      
   Should be "Brain Tap Shuffle".   
      
   >   6. Brooklyn 6:12 $0.99   
      
   This is a demo version of the song appearing on "Countdown to Ecstasy".   
      
   >   7. Any World That I'm Welcome To 3:50 $0.99   
      
   Likewise, a demo version of the song appearing on "Katy Lied".   
      
   >   8. Caves of Altamura 3:25 $0.99   
      
   Misspelled: this is a demo version of "The Caves of Altamira",   
   appearing on "The Royal Scam".   
      
   > 10. Mina From China 4:02 $0.99   
      
   I'm assuming this is the song usually identified as "Yellow Peril".   
      
   > 13. Barry Town 2:14 $0.99   
      
   Again, a demo of a released song. Usually written as one word.   
      
   > 20. Sun Mountain / In a Horse Town 3:47 $0.99   
      
   Hrm. "Sun Mountain", and "A Horse in Town" (note word order) are both   
   Catalyst songs, but I've never seen them given as a single track, and   
   all the creative editing in the world doesn't get their combined time   
   down to 3:47 unless there's been some cutting.   
      
   > 22. Parker's Band 1:25 $0.99   
      
   Demo of the released song, again.   
      
   Comparing the times to my versions of the Catalyst demos (mine are   
   from the "Android Warehouse" double CD), there seem to be some odd   
   discrepancies. Most of the songs are longer by about 6-10 seconds,   
   which is within reason. "Brooklyn", though, is a good 40 seconds   
   longer on this tracklist, "Mock Turtle Song" longer by 20, and   
   "Barrytown" by 25, while "More to Come", "A Little With Sugar",   
   "Android Warehouse", "The Roaring of the Lamb", "Charlie Freak",   
   "Parker's Band", and "Oh, Wow, It's You" are _way_ too short in this   
   listing.   
      
   Also, a few of the standard Catalyst tracks, like "Don't Let Me In",   
   "Soul Ram", and "Undecided" aren't here.   
      
   Bottom line, in answer to the most relevant questions:   
      
   * Are these never before released? Nope.   
      
   * Are they worth owning? If you're interested in them, sure. I like   
     them, and definitely any Steely Dan completist should have a copy of   
     these. They're lo-fi, but the demo versions of released songs are   
     interesting, and the ones which were never turned into released   
     songs, while of varying quality, are worth at least having heard.   
      
   * Is this particular means of getting them worthwhile? I'd balk at   
     that, mostly because the track lengths trouble me and the   
     collection's incomplete. You can definitely get a sampler of these   
     for well under $9 from the shady shovel-collections filed under   
     'Steely Dan' at your local record store, although a complete set may   
     run you more ("Android Warehouse", I seem to recall, ran me about   
     $12). Also, far be it from me to suggest such a course of action,   
     but I'm given to understand you can download all this stuff for free   
     if you're into that and know where to look. (Legalities aside, the   
     _moral_ atmosphere around these demos is pretty hazy -- the   
     particular possession of this property has been so mishandled that   
     you can be fairly confident that whoever's getting a cut of your   
     record purchase, none of them actually deserve it).   
      
     	 	   	   -Jake   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]


(c) 1994,  bbs@darkrealms.ca