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   studiowizard to Mark Mathias   
   Re: Steve Gadd's "mistake" at Aja 4:57`   
   05 Apr 22 10:40:06   
   
   From: studiowizard@gmail.com   
      
   That's a great article - I've read it before, but it's good to read it again.    
   Thanks for sending it!!   
      
   As a studio owner, engineer/producer and session drummer, I can say that   
   something has been lost in making records today vs the way they were made in   
   the 70's mostly, but the 80's as well.  I'm referring to the way producers   
   direct musicians to play.     
   These days, there's so much control placed over the musicians by telling them   
   what to play, then editing the hell out of their tracks to create something   
   that only resembles what was played, but loses the essence.  That is just one   
   of the ingredients    
   that made Aja such a good record.  Hiring the right voices to do what they do   
   to bring the compositions to life.  Today, session players are hired more like   
   delivery people who "deliver" a sound and somewhat of a concept that then is   
   hammered,    
   manipulated and forged into something completely different.  That's not to say   
   that there isn't some great music out there....  there is, and the latter   
   mentioned technique is a valid technique, even if it moves more toward the   
   heartless approach.  But,    
   in my opinion, it doesn't come close to the beauty and soul of songs that are   
   created when musicians are allowed to do what they do.  The onus then is on   
   the writers/producers to bring in the "right" team to achieve that goal.   
      
   Just my .02!   
      
      
   On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 5:40:46 AM UTC-7, Mark Mathias wrote:   
   > On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 10:02:40 AM UTC-6, The old geezer wrote:    
   > > On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 5:35:57 PM UTC-5, studiowizard wrote:    
   > > > On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 3:19:18 AM UTC-8, Scott Hammond wrote:    
   > > > > It was a mistake. He admitted it in a drum clinic in Dublin.    
   > > > > Still sounds good though.    
   > > > Even his mistakes sound musical!    
   > > Man! You guys have WAY too much time on your hands!!    
   > >    
   > > TOG   
   > Gadd fan here. Here's a link to an interview with Steely Dan producer Gary   
   Katz, who was THERE when "Aja" was recorded.    
   >    
   > 16-page chart. One take. Spread the word.    
   >    
   > https://ultimateclassicrock.com/gary-katz-steely-dan-aja-interview-2022/    
   >    
   > You're welcome.   
      
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