From: coolaidcb13@yahoo.com   
      
   I once thought I had the whole Second Arrangement deal figured out.   
   But every time I listen to the two different versions I end up   
   confusing myself.   
      
   According to Brian Sweet, Ed Greene played on the first take that was   
   erased. And then Steve Gadd played on the attempted remake. So I've   
   always assumed that the complete version is the remake, and the short   
   clip is the erased version. The only thing that confuses me is that   
   why wasn't Hiram Bullock's guitar piece on the original one? Was he   
   brought in only for the remake?   
      
   Anyway, to my ears I'd have to agree that it is Steve Gadd on the   
   complete clip, and Ed Greene on the short one. I personally prefer   
   Greene's drumming on the short clip. He's getting a great pop out of   
   that snare, and you can tell he's holding back. Steve's constant   
   hi-hat lifts drive me nuts, I don't think they fit... he makes them   
   fit... but eh... the drums on the remake almost sound like they're   
   being sequenced by WENDEL or something. Very cold and sterile... not   
   as fluid as the drums on the short clip.   
      
   Whatevvvah   
      
   Cedric   
      
      
   P.S. Who played drums on Kulee Baba? :-D   
      
   The answer... Rick Marotta.... dig.   
      
      
      
   On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 02:15:03 +0200, j-man  wrote:   
      
   >On 2006-04-26 08:34:28 +0200, grummanf6f@hotmail.com said:   
   >   
   >> Hi all,   
   >>   
   >> having downloaded the fantastic piece from the Web, I wonder if anyone   
   >> can identify the drummer? Is it Bernard Purdie?   
   >>   
   >> Thanks!   
   >   
   >Brian Sweet reports in "Reelin' in the years" (as far as I know, the   
   >only book about SD) that the original take was played by Ed Greene (who   
   >also played on "I got the news"). After the take was erased by mistake,   
   >they attempted to re-record it with a different band, but they gave up.   
   >The drummer was Steve Gadd, if I remember well (I don't have the book   
   >with me right now).   
   >   
   >The sound file available on the web sounds like an almost complete   
   >version, with a great backing vocals work: only the horn section is   
   >missing.   
   >IMHO, it is unlikely that SD took the re-recording at this stage, if   
   >they weren't satisfied with the rhythm track. I suppose it could be a   
   >rough mix of the lost take: maybe it was made for the horn arranger,   
   >who knows...   
   >   
   >Listening to the other "2nd arrangement" soundbite, available here   
   >   
   >http://www.angelfire.com/il/babel7/images/Mystery.wav   
   >   
   >the drummer sounds like Steve Gadd to my ear... but I won't bet about   
   >it. I'll play both tracks to my drummer, he's very good to identify   
   >drummers by their playing. I'll let you know.   
   >   
   >Ciao.   
   >   
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