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   Nomen Nescio to luke nichols   
   Re: Dream (1/2)   
   22 Mar 07 21:20:02   
   
   XPost: alt.religion.christian, alt.religion, alt.dreams   
   XPost: alt.tarot   
   From: nobody@dizum.com   
      
   On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, "luke nichols"  wrote:   
   >Last Nights Dream   
   >By: Luke Nichols   
   >   
   >Some parts of this dream I will leave out, because they are personal, and   
   >memories of a girl, long, long gone.   
   >I dreamt I was at my home, and I drove down to a Town. I don't know the   
   >Town. I just know on one side of the road, it had a rocky cliff, and on the   
   >other side, a river.   
      
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   Forgive the verbose reply, but as a Christian, the subject of dreams   
   interests me. Perhaps other Christians are interested in dreams, too?   
      
   To begin with, archetypally, the river symbolizes the eternal stream   
   of the heavenly & hellish subconscious, as manifests physically in the   
   weak nuclear force.  In judicial astrology, tarot, and other religions,   
   this is called the trinity, or triplicity, of Water. Our closest is the   
   Astral plane, the ineffable God of the Moon, who rules over the Creator   
   of Water Cancer: Imagination, Dreams, Somnus, Morpheus, Delta, Emotions,   
   appropriately named "The Chariot" of tarot. To sleep perchance to dream...   
      
   The rocky cliff is the triplicity of Gravity, centered on Plovton-Hades   
   at the geocenter--the focus--of the Earth, befittingly named "The World"   
   in tarot, the Creator of Gravity, ruled by the mighty Titan King Saturn   
   chained (and occasionally forebodingly unchained) far beneath your feet.   
      
   The "rockiness" of the cliff symbolizes the crystalline firmament, the   
   tenth heaven, as called the *Empyrean*, and akasic memory of the Earth.   
   Hence the common phrases, "the rock remembers" but "the water forgets".   
   Like in Genesis, the arid land is called Earth, and the congregation of   
   the waters are called Seas [Gen 1:10, ibid].   
      
   The river on one side and the rocky cliff on the other symbolizes night   
   and day, the evening and morning, superior and inferior, feminine and   
   masculine, yin and yang, liturgical and ecclesiastical, etc. One might   
   think of this as manifesting in right-brain and left-brain hemispheres   
   of the mortal physical human brain, i.e. respectively, but the emphasis   
   is always on the eternal, heavenly, major arcana aspects of experience.   
      
   The road is the endless road of soul's eternal, ever-aggregating, ever-   
   developing experience: both in the discarnate state, and the incarnate   
   state, all being eternal, the latter being eternally-temporal, to wit.   
      
   The "Town", the Tau, which is the sidereal letter of Venus, the sixth   
   evening-morning of Creation, of immortal humankind before the Fall of   
   Autumn & Evening; i.e. the never-ending journey towards a destination   
   unknown--unknown to the extent of sovereign freewill, otherwise known.   
   And "memories of a girl, long, long gone" etc. is similarly universal,   
   i.e. universally archetypal, as is the rest of your "personal" dream.   
   It is both uniquely personal (subjective), and archetypal (objective)...   
   >   
   >So this guy and me are talking, and I looked back over my left shoulder, and   
   >one of the mountains exploded. Volcanic rock and ash flew up into the air,   
   >and magma began to flow down the sides of the mountain, as the top glowed   
   >red. I knew, instantly, I was a dead man. I prayed, after a while, "God, it   
   >is enough." and the volcano kind of died down.   
   >   
   In this context "me" is more subjective, whereas "I" is more objective.   
   I.e. me the mortally-incarnate ego-self, in contrast to I the God-self.   
   Spiritually, right and left, Latin "dexteram et sinistram" [Jonah 4:11],   
   is directly associated with good and evil, heaven and hell, respectively.   
   Hence "down to the left", "up to the right". These are _very_ archetypal.   
      
   The past tense is revealing "I (God-self) looked back over my (ego-self)   
   left (evil) shoulder, pristinely reminiscent of Lot's wife, who had looked   
   back upon the fire and brimstone as it rained down upon Sodom and Gomorrah   
   [Gen 19:24-26]. Again, this is prototypical, archetypal, dream symbology.   
      
   >So, next I'm on this high steel tower, looking down into the river. A hole   
   >opened in the bottom of the river, and water began to gush up. I rebuked the   
   >river in the name of Jesus, and the water went back down into the Earth.   
      
   "The Tower" is definitively symbolic of victorious Mars, Ares, who rules   
   the God-self, in tarot "The Devil", Creator of Fire whose inferior aspect   
   physically manifests in the strong nuclear force; and also rules "Death",   
   the sting of the Scorpion, the Sustainer of Water (as previously noted).   
      
   Heavenly Victory survives death, "lives through death", like the Samurai.   
   Hence, to look back objectively, in retrospect, is the exclusive purview   
   of our immortal soul, as to remember past mortal incarnations, lifetimes   
   upon the earth.  Only the immortal soul has access to the akasic records.   
   And not only to our own, but also to others. Psychic mediums and prophets   
   practice this reading ability moreso than your average gentile, obviously.   
   >   
   >Then, I was looking up in the sky, and I saw a big mound of dirt, flying in   
   >the air, with a Temple on it. People all around me was happy, thinking it   
   >was Jesus coming back. So the mound of dirt landed on top of a mountain, and   
   >people from everywhere was climbing up the mountain, to go see the sight.   
      
   Please try to be a little more apocalyptically-archetypal (just kidding)!   
   The new city descending out of heaven, in view, etc. etc. [Rev 21:1-3ff].   
   This direct, and unmistakably obvious, association with the Second Advent,   
   the prophesied return of Jesus Christ, requires no further interpretation.   
   >   
   >Once I got up there, there was a man, with coal black hair. He had the   
   >garments of a priest on. He spoke soothing words to the masses, and they had   
   >worship in their eyes for this man.   
   >But, I realized, this man is not Jesus. I realized he was antichrist.   
   >Then I woke up.   
   >Luke   
   >3/21/07   
      
   Yours is a perfectly archetypal dream, and is a very good dream to have.   
   We each experience this dream a little differently, of course, but the   
   gist of it is to own and embrace our shadow-self; i.e. to acknowledge   
   the primordial Tree in the midst of the Paradiso, with its "forbidden   
   fruit", partaking of which did open our eyes to the knowledge of good   
   and evil. Some experience this as "I shook hands with the devil", and   
   "a devil-dog approached me and commenced to panting in my ear as I lay   
   helplessly-motionless", etc. (as happens on occasion when we're astral-   
   projecting, attempting in vain to return to our physical body, causing   
   a bit of a "panic" for a time, until we regain physical consciousness).   
      
   In conclusion, I believe this dream instructs her dreamer to recognize   
   that freedom and responsibility do eternally and universally walk hand-   
   in-hand. That, as sinners, we always have freedom of choice but not of   
   consequences. Some like to believe that souls "choose" to get banished   
   from Paradise--to get kicked out of heaven--and cast down to the earth,   
   etc., but that's not how it works in reality.  Every time our immortal   
   souls incarnate into yet another newborn infant human body born in sin,   
   essentially born to die, born with a *plethora* of good and bad karma,   
   more than enough for one lifetime, it's a traumatic experience for the   
      
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