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   XPost: soc.culture.greek, soc.history.ancient, alt.pagan   
   XPost: alt.magick   
   From: SolomonW@citi.com   
      
   On Sun, 8 Jul 2012 02:08:48 -0700 (PDT), Yusuf B Gursey wrote:   
      
   >>>>>> to it. I can take a Hebrew text and read it in either Modern Hebrew or   
   >>>>>> Ashkenazi pronunciation.   
   >>   
   >>>>> Since the vowels are not written you can pronounce them any way you like.   
   >>>>> Even if they are written you can still ignore them as almost everyone   
   >>>>> does   
   >>>>> when they speak English.   
   >>   
   >>>> In Hebrew vowels are not ignored, if they put into the text, it is for a   
   >>>> reason.   
   >>   
   >>> We are talking about Biblical Hebrew here.   
   >>   
   >> Wrong see (b) above   
   >>   
   >>> It contains no vowel points.   
   >>   
   >> Biblical Hebrew can contain vowels. My text books used to use them.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >   
   >   
   > the vowel points were added in the early Middle Ages, AFAIK 8th cent.   
   > CE or so. but we have an idea of earlier times from proper names in   
   > the LXX and other Greek sources. for earlier pronounciation we have   
   > clues from Canaanite words transcribed into cuneiform.   
      
   If you follow the conversation, we are not talking here of biblical Hebrew.   
   My point is that if today, someone puts vowels into Hebrew text, there is a   
   reason why they have done so, generally it is because a possible confusion   
   exists over the word so the vowels are added.   
      
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