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   SolomonW to Agamemnon   
   Re: Dionysus and Adonis   
   12 Jul 12 19:58:28   
   
   XPost: soc.culture.greek, soc.history.ancient, alt.pagan   
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   From: SolomonW@citi.com   
      
   On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 19:03:54 +0100, Agamemnon wrote:   
      
   > "SolomonW"  wrote in message   
   > news:10wa1t0o3zi$.1o1g96dqshu65.dlg@40tude.net...   
   >> On Mon, 9 Jul 2012 10:50:46 +0100, Agamemnon wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> "SolomonW"  wrote in message   
   >>> news:1x9lkiiq4xvhf.heet49ijd8eq.dlg@40tude.net...   
   >>>> On Sun, 8 Jul 2012 12:13:09 +0100, Agamemnon wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> "SolomonW"  wrote in message   
   >>>>> news:7gzqqky8ktda$.ggseizdjfn1i.dlg@40tude.net...   
   >>>>>> On Sat, 7 Jul 2012 23:23:52 +0100, Agamemnon wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On the other hand, at the time of Naharin, this king was named   
   >>>>>>>>> after   
   >>>>>>>>> Yam   
   >>>>>>>>> Nahar who was of course as we know from the Baal Epic, Yaw or   
   >>>>>>>>> Jehovah.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> This is another issue and if true shows that your point about   
   >>>>>>>> Porphyry   
   >>>>>>>> above is wrong.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Wrong. It shows that my point about Porphyry is right since he   
   >>>>>>> explicitly   
   >>>>>>> states that the Jews worshiped the same gods as the Phoenicians and   
   >>>>>>> that   
   >>>>>>> they originated from defied kings. Nahor links the Jews to Naharin   
   >>>>>>> and   
   >>>>>>> Yam   
   >>>>>>> Nahar who from the Baal Epic we know was Yaw or Jehovah.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The Canaanites which include Phoenicians would also not have the   
   >>>>>> letter   
   >>>>>> J.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Of course they had the letter J. What do you think Yod is? It was a   
   >>>>> consonant in the Hebrew alphabet since the Phoenician script contained   
   >>>>> no   
   >>>>> vowels. Yod is the Je of Jehovah.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> No the Yod is Y. Sine we do nit use the J what will happen is   
   >>>   
   >>> Y and J are the same thing if you claim Yod is a consonant, otherwise Yod   
   >>> would have been a vowel used in the same way as the Greek letter Ypsilon   
   >>> which derived from it, ie. U.   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Jaakobah  becomes in Hebrew Yaakova or Ya'akova   
   >>>> Similarly Jabin  becomes  Yavin   
   >>>> Jachin becomes Yachin   
   >>>> Jacob becomes Yaakov or Ya'akov   
   >>>> Jael is Yael or Ya˘el   
   >>>   
   >>> Which if Yod is a consonant can equally well be pronounced as J.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Transcription is frequently done for people's names, as such we have the   
   >> pronunciation of Hebrew names written in ancient Greek and Latin. It is a   
   >> Y.   
   >   
   > No it's not. In Greek it's transliterated as an I (hence YHWH = Ieuo) which   
   > is of course the letter Iota itself and in Latin I and J are one in the   
   > same.   
      
   classical Latin   
      
   http://adamhoward.net/latin/latinpron.html   
      
   j	"y" as in yahoo, never an usual English 'j' sound like jet   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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