In article <2b0288b.0406131326.2758c574@posting.google.com>,   
   lessemites_nospam@yahoo.fr (Les Semites) wrote:   
      
   > I am wondering if BAAL and EL(AL) are the same and one God ?   
   >   
   > Baal seems to be the father god, with a grey barb and 2 wings. His   
   > symbol is the bull.   
      
   the reverse is true. from the baal epic of the ugaritic texts, baal   
   speaking: the bull, my father el.   
      
   of course, we are talking about mythologies with a lot of local   
   variance. is there in fact some other text that identifies baal as the   
   bull and the father of el?   
      
   for instance, the ugaritic texts also identify dagon (a god of   
   agriculture and the sea) as the father of baal.   
      
   it should be noted that el and baal are titles, not personal names. el   
   meas god and baal means master/lord.   
      
   el is found as part of the names of many divine entities, such as   
   michael, gabriel, elat, el-roi, and el-shaddai.   
      
   el the bull, the king of the gods, was pretty much just el.   
   more-or-less like moderns refer to god or allah.   
      
   baal is also applied to many deities. baal-haddad the thunder god,   
   bel-marduk of the babylonians, etc.   
      
      
   > Also it would be interesting to compare with Egyptian Gods, since they   
   > belong to afroasiatic branch too. Did they have a god similar to Baal   
      
   as part of native egyptian beliefs, not really. the afroasiatic family   
   is a broadly defined group of languages. classical egyptian was not   
   close to semetic tongues.   
      
   they were geographically close. semetic beliefs were practiced by   
   people living in egypt in various periods of history.   
      
      
   > It is also reckognized that El become the main God of Abraham and of   
   > the Bible. But Baal became the sign of bad god, of devil. How did this   
   > happen ?   
      
   baal-haddad was similar to jehovah/yahweh of the israelites, also a   
   thunder god. they were natural rivals for the same sacrifices and   
   worship.   
      
   jehovah had the divine title adonai rather than baal. this is   
   translated as the lord in english.   
      
   jehovah was also called el. eventually this religion became   
   monotheistic and jehovah became simply el.   
      
   it is hard to say whether the canaanite/phoenician el became the modern   
   god, or was suceeded on the divine throne by jehovah.   
      
   it's sort of like asking whether the adam west batman is the same   
   character as the michael keaton batman.   
      
   there is one hint in the bible. jehovah addresses the assembly of el in   
   a bible verse. this might be a relic of earlier henotheistic times when   
   jehovah shared a crowded belief system with el and other gods.   
      
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