XPost: alt.astrology, alt.astrology.metapsych, alt.paranormal   
   XPost: alt.psychology   
   From: Ye@h.Right   
      
   It would be very easy to prove that psychology does not meet the criteria of   
   a science. It is also neccesary to accept most psychological findings on   
   "faith", since most psychological findings cannot be proven.   
      
   Religion also requires "faith" in an unseen God.   
      
   So, it our secular society, psychology has supplanted the church as the   
   primary organ of shamanism.   
      
   My question is very straightforward - since psychology is therefore a type   
   of religion, why is there no separation of church and state when it comes to   
   psychology ?   
      
   Why is it that we have these pseudoscientific shaman running around in our   
   schools, prisons, etc ? Remembering that everything a psychologist says must   
   be taken on "faith", exactly as if this advice were coming from a priest !   
      
   Psychologists speak of id and ego, subconscious and mental illness, and all   
   manner of things, yet it cannot be proved that they exist at all. No   
   different than talking about God. These things must be accepted on -FAITH-.   
   This is why psychology IS a FAITH, and again the question remains, what   
   happened to the separation of church and state ?   
      
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   Psychologists worship the God of "greater social good". It is an abstract   
   God, which is assumed to exist, because it just makes sense that there is a   
   greater good out there somewhere which we should all strive to achieve. They   
   cannot prove that this "greater good" exists, but if you asked the man on   
   the street it would be nearly unanimous that people believe that there   
   exists a "greater good". This is the God of psychology.   
      
   There are many other parallels to religion. For example, psychotropic   
   medications. The dispensing of psychotropic medications has supplanted the   
   Eucharist, and many people are expected to consume their medications   
   regardless of what good or harm these pills may cause, because taking the   
   magic pills is a sacrament, an act of homage to the "God of greater good" -   
   and the taking of the sacrament is an affirmation of reverence to this God.   
   The God of psychology.   
      
   There is a tremendous amount of dogma and superstition, mysticism, and   
   unprovable things which must be accepted on =>FAITH<= . This is because   
   nothing regarding the mind can be measured. You cannot have a science   
   without measurements. Can anyone measure love, or hate, or beauty ? No, this   
   will always be impossible. Yet we are expected to have =>FAITH<= that the   
   psychologist  has the clairvoyant skills neccesary to get past that   
   little sticky point. We must accept his opinions "just because", or perhaps   
   because of his experience and knowledge, but never on proof, one must always   
   rely on faith.   
      
   Many highly educated psychologists have considered things as far reaching as   
   psychic powers, mind reading, the power of mind over matter. There has   
   never, ever been one shred of solid proof of these things, but much work has   
   been done on it and millions of dollars have been spent on this. Even the   
   Pentagon was involved with "remote viewing", which NEVER produced a single   
   usable shred of information. Taxpayers have paid the bills for this, because   
   some quack had =>FAITH<= in a nonexistent "paranormal".   
      
   You have the holy trinity; the mind, the collective conscious, and the God   
   of greater good. The collective conscious is seated at the right hand of the   
   father, and the God's son the messiah, the mind, has come to Earth and is   
   the salvation of mankind. The individual mind may be sacrificed by   
   crucifixion as an atonement for the sins of man, but God has not abandoned   
   the mind or the collective conscious, regardless of what evils may prevail.   
      
      
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   Psychology even has it's own "Ark of the Coveneant", the "Holy Grail" of   
   psychological mysticism is embodied in a mechanical contraption manufactured   
   by General Electric Corp., it is the NMR.   
      
   It is assumed that the inner working of the mind will eventually be   
   understood, and many people are intensely interested in the use of brain   
   scanning equipment such as the NMR to understand the functioning of the huma   
   n mind.   
      
   Psychologists and other real scientists are wildly optimistic that these   
   technologies will pave the way for a whole new world of psychological   
   wonderment. Yet, as experiments continue to drag on and on, year after year,   
   we wait with baited breath for the big breakthrough - and it never seems to   
   come.   
      
   Seems like we've been through this before. Mankind was promised a panacea,   
   all we had to do was lock them up on a ship of fools. When that did'nt work,   
   we built madhouses. When that panacea did'nt pan out they tried a million   
   different ridiculous treatments. Then came lobotomies and electroshock.   
   Still we wait for the fullfillment of a promise, that their "healing powers"   
   will produce a miracle cure. Sadly, we find that the cures which we were   
   promised are not effective at all, only wierd tortures.   
      
   Now, the magic healers are promising yet another miracle. They are promising   
   that they will HEAL the sick as a result of the magical mystical powers of   
   the sacred NMR machine. And the most difficult part about this is that we   
   cant even prove that someone is "ill", and so it will be even more difficult   
   to prove that they have been "healed".   
      
   The whole thing is adding up to a massive case of fraud.   
      
   So, we have the DOGMA, the FAITH, the GOD, the MESSIAH, the TRINITY, the   
   ARK, and the MIRACLE of HEALING (which has never happened).   
      
   Is there any doubt that psychology is a RELIGION ???   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)