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   In talk.atheism jabriol@hotmail.com wrote:   
   : Steve Mading    
   wrote in message news:...   
   :> In talk.atheism Paul Laird  wrote:   
   :> :   
   :> : "David Jensen"  wrote in message   
   :> : news:2gmvb050dvm49drr049cbefq27mmcn26s4@4ax.com...   
   :> :> In alt.talk.creationism,  wrote in   
   :> :> <20040603.181324.20158.23165@webmail04.nyc.untd.com>:   
   :> :>   
   :> :> >  THE Flood of Noah's day was such a devastating cataclysm that   
   :> :> >mankind could never forget it.   
   :> :>   
   :> :> Bad start.   
   :> :>   
   :> :> There was no such flood.   
   :> :   
   :> : Even worse response.  Geologist and Geologic Paleantologists agree that   
   the   
   :> : earth suffered a catastrophic flood sometime in the last 6000 years.   
   :>   
   :> No.  They agree that parts of the earth suffered seperate local floods   
   :> at seperate times.   
   :   
   :   
   : This was no local flash flood or cloudburst. In fact, the Greek word   
   : used in the Bible to refer to the Flood, or Deluge, is   
   : ka??ta??kly??smos??, a cataclysm. (Lu 17:27, ftn) Local floods come and go   
   : in a matter of days;   
      
   False.  Local floods can and do last longer.  Remember the Mississippi   
   river flood that lasted all spring a few years back?  Or are you going   
   to conveniently ignore that obvious counterexample to your silly claim?   
      
   : this one lasted over a year, the greater portion   
   : of which was required for the water to subside.   
      
   Show your reference to this outrageous claim that "Geologist and   
   Geologic Paleantologists" agree that this occurred in the last 6000   
   years.  Right now it just looks like you made it up.   
      
   : How unreasonable to   
   : believe that Noah spent perhaps 50 or 60 years building a huge vessel   
   : of approximately 40,000 cu m (1,400,000 cu ft) for the survival of his   
   : family and a few animals through a mere local flood!   
      
   That would be unreasonable to believe.  It's good thing then that   
   in addition to not believing a global flood happened, I also don't   
   believe the ark ever happened.  I challenge you to find a person   
   who simultaneously denyies the biblical flood story while still   
   accepting that Noah's ark existed.   
      
   : If only a   
   : comparatively small area was affected, why the need of bringing into   
   : the ark specimens of "every living creature of every sort of flesh" in   
   : order to "preserve offspring alive on the surface of the entire   
   : earth"?   
      
   The strawman belief you refer to is something that I strongly doubt   
   anybody holds.   
      
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