XPost: alt.mexico, alt.movies   
   From: invalid@address.com   
      
   >>It defines them pretty well. Any culture that practices ritual   
   >>> cannibalism, particularly a well-established culture, it rotten to   
   >>> the core. That's what the European explorers saw when they came to   
   >>> the New World. Brutality, cannibalism, tribal warfare, ritualized   
   >>> murder. It's been whitewashed in the centuries that have passed to   
   >>> try to make the natives of the Americas into some sort of noble   
   >>> nature boys. Bullshit I say. They would have raped the New World   
   >>> down to the bare bedrock if they had possessed the technology to   
   >>> do so.   
   >   
   >   
   > You are writing off the top of your head about all of this. There is   
   > very little evidence for cannibalism among mesoamerican peoples. The   
   > European explorers never saw it, as far as I know.   
   >   
   > As far as tribal warfare and ritualized murder, you have yet to respond   
   > to my questions about similar practices among the Europeans.   
   >   
   > Basically, you don't know what you are talking about and you are   
   > pouring out your absurd prejudices without any reference to reality.   
   > There's no point in trying to reason with you because you just revert   
   > to moronic sarcasm or new ways of stating the same old lies.   
   >   
   > As far as the accuracy of Apocalypto is concerned, begin with the very   
   > simple fact that Apocalypto is not a Spanish word. If that's the level   
   > of accuracy of the title, what should we expect from the rest of the   
   > film?   
   >   
      
      
   You've bought into the whole "noble savage" propaganda bullshit   
   that has been used as an excuse to criticize European culture for   
   the past few centuries. It has *no* truth in it. Yes, there is   
   evidence for cannibalism right across the Americas -- look it up.   
   It was condoned and accepted in the American Indian cultures in   
   which it was practiced. By contrast, cannibalism has never been   
   condoned or officially practiced in the cultures of Europe since   
   at least Roman times. Yes, European cultures were more advanced,   
   more enlightened and more civilized than the cultures they   
   encountered in the Americas when the first explorers crossed the   
   Atlantic. Yes, our ancestors were better than the Indians. Better   
   intellectually, better morally, better socially.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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