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   XPost: alt.religion.druid   
   From: miketwofeathers@gmail.com   
      
   Norman Wells wrote:   
   > GB wrote:   
   >> On 20/09/2012 18:59, Norman Wells wrote:   
   >>> GB wrote:   
   >>>> On 20/09/2012 17:32, Norman Wells wrote:   
   >>>>> GB wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 20/09/2012 14:27, Norman Wells wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> It isn't.  In the   
   >>>>>>>>> main, it's done simply because parents want to mutilate their   
   >>>>>>>>> children to impose their will on them.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> What baloney. And your source for this is?  Your fevered   
   >>>>>>>> imagination?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Sources aren't required for statements of obvious truth.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> And it's the obvious truth for the vast majority of all   
   >>>>>>> circumcisions performed in the cause of religion or 'culture'.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> It's obviously untrue that "it's done simply because parents want   
   >>>>>> to impose their will on them."   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Who else is pushing it and imposing it on their own children ?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> So, you accept that it is not done simply to impose their will?   
   >>>   
   >>> Of course it is.  Otherwise they'd leave it until the child is   
   >>> competent to decide for himself.   
   >>   
   >> No, it is not done for the reason you gave. And you know that.   
   >   
   > It's not necessary for clinical reasons.  It's not done with the consent   
   > of the victim.  It's done because the parents want it done.  It's done   
   > because parents want to create mini-thems.  It's an imposition and a   
   > mutilating assault on the child for which there is no excuse.   
   >   
      
   i imagine if you put a child in a closet and only feed them and give no   
   direction you would end up with a very stupid skinny anemic child. so   
   how do you propose for them to learn during the very young years of 1-6?   
   its already a fact that kids learn bad things at schools from other   
   children that have had no good kick in the pants as they grow up as most   
   of the time now there is no parent at home to teach them. how do you   
   propose for them to learn language or how to use a spoon or fork?   
      
   in fact i was reading this morning on an american website where a young   
   boy was kept in a closet and barely fed, and he could speak english but   
   poorly. how do you explain that one?   
      
   http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-comer-abuse-case,0,6097336.story   
      
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