XPost: uk.legal, soc.culture.irish, soc.women   
   XPost: alt.religion.druid   
   From: hex@unseen.ac.am   
      
   spiritrising wrote:   
   > Norman Wells wrote:   
   >> GB wrote:   
   >>> On 20/09/2012 18:59, Norman Wells wrote:   
   >>>> GB wrote:   
   >>>>> On 20/09/2012 17:32, Norman Wells wrote:   
   >>>>>> GB wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 20/09/2012 14:27, Norman Wells wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> It isn't.  In the   
   >>>>>>>>>> main, it's done simply because parents want to mutilate their   
   >>>>>>>>>> children to impose their will on them.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> What baloney. And your source for this is?  Your fevered   
   >>>>>>>>> imagination?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Sources aren't required for statements of obvious truth.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> And it's the obvious truth for the vast majority of all   
   >>>>>>>> circumcisions performed in the cause of religion or 'culture'.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> It's obviously untrue that "it's done simply because parents   
   >>>>>>> want to impose their will on them."   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Who else is pushing it and imposing it on their own children ?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> So, you accept that it is not done simply to impose their will?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Of course it is.  Otherwise they'd leave it until the child is   
   >>>> competent to decide for himself.   
   >>>   
   >>> No, it is not done for the reason you gave. And you know that.   
   >>   
   >> It's not necessary for clinical reasons.  It's not done with the   
   >> consent of the victim.  It's done because the parents want it done.   
   >> It's done because parents want to create mini-thems.  It's an   
   >> imposition and a mutilating assault on the child for which there is   
   >> no excuse.   
   >   
   > i imagine if you put a child in a closet and only feed them and give   
   > no direction you would end up with a very stupid skinny anemic child.   
   > so how do you propose for them to learn during the very young years   
   > of 1-6? its already a fact that kids learn bad things at schools from   
   > other children that have had no good kick in the pants as they grow   
   > up as most of the time now there is no parent at home to teach them.   
   > how do you propose for them to learn language or how to use a spoon   
   > or fork?   
      
   I don't think I'd do it by circumcising him.  Why do you think that   
   would help?   
      
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