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   XPost: alt.religion.druid   
   From: miketwofeathers@gmail.com   
      
   Norman Wells wrote:   
   > spiritrising wrote:   
   >> Norman Wells wrote:   
   >>> GB wrote:   
   >>>> On 20/09/2012 18:59, Norman Wells wrote:   
   >>>>> GB wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 20/09/2012 17:32, Norman Wells wrote:   
   >>>>>>> GB wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 20/09/2012 14:27, Norman Wells wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> It isn't.  In the   
   >>>>>>>>>>> main, it's done simply because parents want to mutilate their   
   >>>>>>>>>>> children to impose their will on them.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> What baloney. And your source for this is?  Your fevered   
   >>>>>>>>>> imagination?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Sources aren't required for statements of obvious truth.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> And it's the obvious truth for the vast majority of all   
   >>>>>>>>> circumcisions performed in the cause of religion or 'culture'.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> It's obviously untrue that "it's done simply because parents   
   >>>>>>>> want to impose their will on them."   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Who else is pushing it and imposing it on their own children ?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> So, you accept that it is not done simply to impose their will?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Of course it is.  Otherwise they'd leave it until the child is   
   >>>>> competent to decide for himself.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> No, it is not done for the reason you gave. And you know that.   
   >>>   
   >>> It's not necessary for clinical reasons.  It's not done with the   
   >>> consent of the victim.  It's done because the parents want it done.   
   >>> It's done because parents want to create mini-thems.  It's an   
   >>> imposition and a mutilating assault on the child for which there is   
   >>> no excuse.   
   >>   
   >> i imagine if you put a child in a closet and only feed them and give   
   >> no direction you would end up with a very stupid skinny anemic child.   
   >> so how do you propose for them to learn during the very young years   
   >> of 1-6? its already a fact that kids learn bad things at schools from   
   >> other children that have had no good kick in the pants as they grow   
   >> up as most of the time now there is no parent at home to teach them.   
   >> how do you propose for them to learn language or how to use a spoon   
   >> or fork?   
   >   
   > I don't think I'd do it by circumcising him.  Why do you think that   
   > would help?   
   >   
      
   i can as a doctor imagine the problems he had while in that closet   
   because of not being circumcised. i would be surprised he could even pee   
      
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