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   Way Back Jack to Jos Boersema   
   Re: White man still as ignorant as when    
   21 Dec 12 08:23:59   
   
   From: invalid@invalid.net   
      
   > I'll leave harping on their own evil to the black race, if I would do   
   > it the white bankers will use it to abuse people more.   
      
   You mean the bankers who were forced by Big Brother, the Fed. Govt., to   
   give loans to deadbeats, thereby laying the foundation to the 2008   
   recession?   
      
   >  Native Americans have more creativity about economics   
   >  and Government.   
      
   Yeah, those Natives really set up an outstanding, advanced economic   
   society.  If whitey had left them alone, everyone would have had a share of   
   the pie: beads, hides, blankets, and bison meat.  Now that's what I call   
   high livin'.   
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
   On 21 Dec 2012 07:33:03 GMT, Jos Boersema wrote:   
      
   > On 2012-12-20, Way Back Jack  wrote:   
   >> On 22 Nov 2012 09:59:26 GMT, Jos Boersema wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> I've talked to many white men (being one myself), and they not only   
   >>> still think the same way, they do not even understand when another way   
   >>> is proposed to them. They think they will be free when they 'share   
   >>> everything,' and will be ruled by natural bosses. Laws are supposedly   
   >>> not needed. Then they quickly contradict themselves that there would   
   >>> be 'basic laws' that 'everyone knows' and ... and and. Then they say   
   >>> everyone will share, but don't confuse that with something sane, like   
   >>> helping. It's about the group owns everything. At the same time they   
   >>> think they will own their private belongings, and nobody 'dare touch it.'   
   >>> Yet there will be no trade, everything is sharing; not only for your   
   >>> family but on whatever size. Soil ownership / use is also left in chaos.   
   >>>   
   >>> Nothing they say makes sense, and when you say to them how to form   
   >>> circles and councils, that each has their land and that you will trade   
   >>> what you make but not allow a few to be come very rich or such things,   
   >>> they just rage against you saying you want tyranny and to repress them   
   >>> with 'laws.'   
   >>>   
   >>> Conclusion: white man is as crazy as in the days they set up Rome, and   
   >>> it is probably best to stay away from them if possible, particularly   
   >>> when things become rough and the more aggressive elements among them   
   >>> are starting to gather power again. There is *no* wisdow in the white   
   >>> man: not on economics, not on Government, not on any sense of use of   
   >>> nature.   
   >>   
   >> Yet another self-hating honkie who never forgave moms and pops for being   
   >> white instead of dark and "cool."   
   >   
   > I'll leave harping on their own evil to the black race, if I would do   
   > it the white bankers will use it to abuse people more.   
   >   
   > Recently someone else said why would I like to talk to the American tribes   
   > above other nations, maybe I'm discriminating, there are evil native   
   > Americans too. European nations all follow the same pattern, creativity   
   > is low in the area of economics and Government. They all use some things   
   > imagined by ancient Greeks thousands of years ago. Their economics is   
   > also always wrong, whether it is the feudal hell, or capitalism and get   
   > as rich as you can. Native Americans have more creativity about economics   
   > and Government. It seems the Haudenosaunee law has its own interesting   
   > system of Government, while the Cherokee might do things quite differently,   
   > and then the Navaho do it their way. More creativity means more   
   understanding,   
   > of something that is new, different.   
   >   
   > Another reason is to get a sideways view from another (group of) peoples,   
   > so that the whites are less stressed by their uncertainties but hopefully   
   > will go over into action once re-assured. A sideways view from a different   
   > source is valuable. There may be evil native Americans like there are   
   > evil whites, but there are also good and smart native Americans. Their   
   > words may have a strong influence for the better on the good of the white   
   > man. Then hopefully the white man will change their ways, and the red   
   > man can get their land back (I hope). Why not ?   
      
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