XPost: alt.mythology, talk.religion.misc, alt.religion   
   XPost: alt.folklore   
   From: a202010@lycos.com   
      
   David Dalton wrote:   
      
   >  Timothy Sutter  wrote:   
      
   > > David Dalton wrote:   
      
   > > > Tonight I edited the Summary of key features of my cycles,   
      
   > > i hope you don't mind my injection here; but   
   <...>   
   > > maybe, just perhaps, if you would refrain from seeking to elevate   
   > > yourself to such lofty hights, you wouldn't keep crashing and   
   > > burning and finding yourself in a pit of disillusionment and would   
   > > simply walk amongst the common folk, many of whom, have already   
   > > had meaningful religious experiences without your guidance.   
      
   > > "gibbous this day our daily crescent roll"  <=== (Timothy Sutter)   
      
   > Thanks for the feedback, Timothy.   
      
   > By promoting my own religious experiences I am by no   
   > means putting down the religious experiences of   
   > others, and I encourage others including you to   
   > talk about their religious experiences.   
      
   well, if what you say could be considered an attack on   
   other people's experiences, it is couched in your statements   
   that "prophets" and the like, are "schizoaffective and schizophrenic"   
      
   you say:   
   #So anyway past religious figures who got crossroads   
   #info from many muses and then spat out (or were   
   #inspired if you believe the religions) new main   
   #messages may have been diagnosed bipolar in modern   
   #times, those who supposedly (and maybe actually)   
   #got revelations may have been diagnosed as schizophrenic   
   #today (though I supect maybe Mohammed was inspired   
   #to write the Koran and didn't really hear a voice   
   #but perhaps I'm wrong) and those who got an intermediate   
   #amount of both inspiration and revelation might have   
   #been diagnosed as schizoaffective today.   
      
      
   so, in some respects, you seem to suggest that   
   past figures, whom you claim to be "the next"   
   were schizophrenic and/or schizoaffective.   
      
      
   you have said things like this;   
      
   #i am the next avatar/buddha/christ/messiah/Prophet type.   
      
   #I use he term "opener of the way" for myself and claim to be   
   #similar to past figures such as Moses, Jesus, Gautama Siddharta,   
   #Krishna, Mohammed, Lao Tzu and Gwion (Taliesin) among others.   
   #Terms that have been used for them include avatar, buddha,   
   #christ, messiah and Prophet.   
      
      
   you seem to claim to be "like" Moses and then say   
    that you have some sort of mental disorder and   
   in so doing, imply that Moses had a mental disorder.   
      
   and similarly with other folks like Jesus and Mohammed et al.   
      
   mind you, i have not said that you have a mental disorder,   
      
   though, you may, but that is your own self description.   
      
      
   maybe you don't mean to suggest that   
   such people are mentally deranged.   
      
      
   do you?   
      
      
   do you mean to imply that Moses was mentally deranged?   
      
      
      
   > And by publicizing my own religious experiences I   
   > am hoping to find out from my readers about more   
   > past religious figures similar to me and perhaps   
   > even about living humans similar to me.   
      
      
   but you certainly don't want to say;   
      
   "i have a mental disorder, i feel like Moses,   
   therefore, Moses had a mental disorder"   
      
   do you?   
      
   you wouldn't be trying to suggest that anyone who   
   speaks about such experiences with a Deity type   
   are, in fact, deranged simply because you see fit   
   to classify your self along such lines.   
      
   no, you don't say that you are schizophrenic   
      
   but you seem to want to imply that anyone who   
   gets revelation from God or a god or Deity   
   in general, is schizophrenic.   
      
      
   > And the main reason I am promoting similarity of   
   > me to past religious figures is that due to such   
   > similarity my readers might be more likely to   
   > consider my messages (which I plan to edit soon)   
   > carefully.   
      
      
   you may very well be saying;   
      
   "hay everybody, I'm the new Jesus, listen to me"   
      
   but, in some repsects, it comes across like;   
      
   "hay everybody, i'm crazy as cat shit,   
   and i'm just like Jesus and Moses and ...KRSNA?"   
      
      
   > And as I state on my web page, I am not pushing   
   > my deities, just those messages.   
      
   you seem to deify inanimate objects.   
      
   i'm asking this seriously,   
      
   can you communicate with a brick?   
      
      
   > Also I state on my web page that I do not want   
   > to be worshipped, and I certainly do not   
   > worship myself.   
      
   you seem to enjoy being diagnosed by doctors.   
      
   so, i'm wondering, what "way" are you opening   
      
   or trying to open or show people?   
      
      
   you certainly don't mean to suggest this do you?   
      
      
   "hay everybody, I just met the Holy Spirit so,   
   if you have also met the Holy Spirit, go see   
   a doctor and that doctor will fix you good"   
      
      
   if you claim to be some sort of "opener of the way"   
      
   and claim that you've had special revelations   
      
   from some sort of "god"   
      
   are you taking drugs to make it go away?   
      
      
   was your self described experience a bad one?   
      
      
      
   > But yes, in the low years, which I hope will   
   > end soon, I have often been led down wrong   
   > avenues.   
      
      
   this is what seems problematic, you seem to be   
   claiming to be some sort of "leader" who is   
   being "led" down the wrong path.   
      
   so, do you really want to "lead" other people   
   down blind alleys and maybe even "lead" people   
   in to some sort of ditch?   
      
   or have you just managed to lead your self   
   in to a ditch and need some help getting   
   out of there?   
      
   or been led in to a ditch and need help   
   getting out of there?   
      
      
   //a passing tow truck driver...   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)