From: old.jinglebollocks@gmail.com   
      
   On Wednesday, 4 June 2014 13:18:52 UTC+1, joshb  wrote:   
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   > I'm always in for a discussion I suppose, what do you want to discuss.   
       
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   > > Regarding Jesus, the reason why he was so certain that 'the end   
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   > > of the world' was coming in his lifetime was simply that there   
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   > > was an ecological catastrophe 3,400 years BP (before present)   
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   > > and again 2,700 years BP, so Jesus and others got the idea that   
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   > > there was a 700-year cycle for these catastrophes. The Essenes,   
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   > > who lived in caves, were probably the major Jewish doomsday   
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   > > cult - caves being the best shelter from bolides and electric   
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   > > discharges when a major comet draws near the earth. Jesus was   
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   > > probably an emissary of the Essene doomsday cult sent out with   
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   > > good intentions to inform people of the expected catastrophe   
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   > > which never came.   
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   > You could say that the Jewish "world" was ended by the Roman   
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   > conquest, and it's likely that the character of jesus was loosely   
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   > based on people that lived in Israel at the time. At this moment   
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   > i think the interpretation that the new-testament is a fabrication   
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   > of the Roman Imperial cult and a Jewish traitor is the most convincing.   
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   It was a time of great upheaval and book burnings, so it's difficult to be   
   exact. I agree when you seem to say Jesus didn't exist as such but was an   
   invention representative of some things that were happening there at the time.    
   My view is that after the doomsday prophecy failed, the remnants of the cult   
   were still vociferous and a force to be reckoned with, and that Paul was a   
   Roman stooge employed to 'tone down' the early Christians. Later, Constantine   
   rewrote Christianity to    
   impose a universal state religion to maintain stability.   
      
      
      
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   > > ..... the sudden demise   
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   > > of the Etruscan civilisation in central Europe to be replaced   
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   > > by the embryo of Rome amid environmental chaos. The story of   
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   > > Romulus and Remus being suckled by a female dog is probably   
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   > > true. There's nothing unusual about that.   
      
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   > It's unusual and probably impossible. In my opinion probably either    
   >    
   > fantasty, or allegorically of these two children being raised up   
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   > by people who behaved as wolves: outlaws, bandits, criminals, etc.   
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   > The two children could also have been allegorically for 2 tribes,   
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   > who knows. I am by no means an export on that; if it's actually   
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   > true i'm afraid i need a lot of evidence to be convinced.   
      
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   Don't forget that human babies are often given cows' milk exclusively for   
   months, so the idea of a baby surviving on dogs' milk alone is believable.    
      
   The best known recent example of a child being raised by animals is the case   
   of Oxana Malaya in Ukraine. She's an adult now and the case has been   
   re-evaluated by a serious psychologist, who is convinced she could not be   
   acting. Witnesses in several parts    
   of Ukraine confirm her story. It seems she had already got through infancy   
   when she joined the dogs, but her story is still highly illustrative.   
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyqbnDjId7g    
       
      
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