From: oldwifetale@yahoo.com   
      
   On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 7:15:29 AM UTC-7, joshb wrote:   
   > Op 2014-10-07, oldwifetale schreef :   
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   > > I said what i had to say. Putting 10,000 words in my mouth that   
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   > > i'd never say is not really 'debating' anything.   
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   > What did I put in your mouth ? You support COINTELPRO, you said it.   
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   > I even wondered if you knew what COINTERPRO is, not putting more in   
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   > your mouth then may be reasonable.   
      
      
   Uh, no. I clearly said that i did *not* support any of the illegal methods   
   that might have been used, but that i can see no reason why a co   
   nter-intelligence program used to investigate Communist infiltration of   
   militant anti-American and/or hate groups    
   in the 70s was "wrong" or "immoral". I would be supportive of an investigation   
   if that was truly happening or if there were good reasons to think it was   
   happening. Why would i 'not' be? I also wouldn't expect investigators to act   
   'fairly' in the eyes of    
   people being investigated. I would, however, expect them to act within the law   
   and not be criminals themselves, and that's where i *do* have a problem with   
   COINTELPRO. Don't tell me what i said. I know what i said.   
      
       
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   > > "So you see how things are turning upside down in America."   
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   > > I heard the same thing in a recent South Park episode (Gluten-free Ebola /   
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   > > "Gonna eat those pancakes?"). Therefore you can rest assured; it's true.   
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   > In a society that has lost all direction, the only place the truth   
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   > can still be said is on South Park ~ hence you are correct about that one.   
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   > It is itself a sign that in America everything is upside down. There is   
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   > various reasons for this. If you think about it, it really isn't funny   
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   > anymore. One reason is that it's a place where those who say the truth   
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   > find their last outlet (like Usenet ?). Another is that the criminal   
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   > establishment wishes for the truth to be seen as stupid by coming from   
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   > the wrong sources. Soon even South Park and the like will not be allowed   
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   > to speak the truth anymore; the Lie will become Universal ~ unless the   
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   > USA collapses before that time (I hope so for you).   
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   > PS I'm fine if you give up on the debate, I'm glad you saw fit to wage   
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   >    it for an extend. I always enjoy a debate, thanks for that. Not many   
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   >    are able and willing to debate a problem out into it's ultimate    
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   >    detail, usually because it means admitting they've been wrong ;).   
      
      
   You're free to draw your own [false] conclusions.   
      
   Regarding the idea that things are turned *upside-down* (not just in   
   America)... and a particular episode of South Park... i think it flew over   
   your head, so maybe just let it go.    
      
   Or here, be offended:   
      
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xROsAU94_PU   
      
   What, exactly, are you wanting to debate anyway?   
      
   ('shark' pajamas, lol)   
      
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    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)