I too know this is an old post. I know little of Native American traditions. I   
   met tino around the year 2000.at the soho wellness center in nyc . I was   
   invited to have a session w him by the owner. I was teaching yoga there at the   
   time . I had little    
   money and nobody asked for money. I told him at some point that I thought I   
   was in dire need of some type of healing or vision and I had heard of people   
   spending thousands of dollars to go on a vision quest out west which was out   
   of the question for me    
   barely supporting my disabled wife and 2 young children.  Gino said only a   
   gift of tobacco was necessary. Come to Northern California to cal bring   
   tobacco. It took me more than a year to save up the plane fair. I called him   
   he said he would pick me up at    
   airport. I went and he picked me up in Oakland along with another man man who   
   flew in I gave him tobacco . We drove in his truck for over 5 hours I fasted   
   on a hillside for several days I spent over a week on. The land and driving   
   around in his truck. We    
   talked about things like respect kindness responsibility . My inner and outer   
   world opened up I wept . I came to understand and be eternally grateful for   
   the gifts that the plants and animals gave to me . Thank you squirrel turtle   
   snake and wasp. Thank    
   you river road rock and path. Thanx. I broke his land lie phone and answering   
   machine accideny  I offered him a hundred dollars to fix it he accepted it .i   
   was being careless and impatient when I broke it. My bad glad to fix. I have   
   not seen nor spoken    
   to him in at least 15 years. I am still learning from his his ways of   
   teaching. If you meet him tell him of my gratitude.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)