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|    David Dalton to Bassos    |
|    Re: awakening/enlightenment    |
|    11 Nov 18 23:22:36    |
      8d66cb59       XPost: alt.magick, alt.religion.druid, alt.religion.shamanism       XPost: alt.religion.orisha       From: dalton@nfld.com              On Nov 11, 2018, Bassos wrote       (in article<5be82202$0$26345$e4fe514c@newszilla.xs4all.nl>):              > On 9-11-2018 7:02, David Dalton wrote:       > > I have written a few times before of my hope that I will come out of my       > > low/wilderness years and achieve awakening/enlightenment, like the Buddha       > > did       > > at the end of his seven ascetic years.       >       > Hope is like a shovel; IT pushes things away.       > Clarity sees through all that.              Yes, I have pretty well given up on predicting my release.              > Science part:       > When a concept is presented into a form in the brain, the meditation is       > not done properly.       >       > A true clarity state should not measure at all.       > Effects of that state should though.       > Like rapid healing.       >       > > I have said that I expect this       > > awakening/enlightenment to consist of sustained productive creativity and       > > mental stability, allowing me to taper off my medication without       > > experiencing       > > adverse effects.       >       > Expectations ?       > This far in ?       > Is this more reflecting on what you said years ago ?              I haven’t changed what I am saying in many years now. Originally       I thought the low years would last three years, then seven, and       now I am at 22.78 years.              > > I think I have briefly come out of the low years twice before, once one       > > early       > > evening when I was visiting Vancouver in September 2004, and once one New       > > Year’s Eve a few years ago here in St. John’s.       >       > Twice clarity seems beauty hit ya hard.       >       > > In both cases I experienced a feeling of luminous clarity, and it wasn’t       > > similar to my       > > waning crescent highs.       >       > Did you experience rapid healing, as in being awake, not so much through       > increased testosterone/adrenaline but through 'waking up              Both those instances lasted only a few minutes. so no, I       did not experience rapid healing, though I felt more alive.              > Think the visual from dragon ball z, where piccolo is on namek and has       > just joined with Nail.       >       > "YES, i'm HOME, I'm alive, this is all a miracle, I'm awake, i'm wide awake"       >       > > I have three types of awakening so far:       > > 1. my waning crescent highs (inspiration/call)       > > 2. release from my waxing gibbous moon trials by full moon       > > 3. the above-mentioned two brief incidents.       > >       > > But anyway, while medication has eased my way, it seems that it has delayed       > > the final awakening/enlightenment since most past figures similar to me had       > > only seven years of low years, a few had 14 years, and I have gone 22.78       > > years so far. If an 11 year sunspot cycle variation holds, I might come out       > > of the low years 11 years after the 14 years, so 2.22 more years, or 22       > > years       > > after the 7 years, or 6.22 more years. But I hope it will be sooner than       > > 2.22       > > more years.       > >       > > However, note that while my low years were quite bad in 1996 and 1997,       these       > > days they are not very low except in terms of creativity while I am on my       > > current medication regimen of 1250 mg divalproex sodium and 7.5 mg of       > > olanzapine nightly and am abstaining from alcohol 1--9 days before full       moon       > > and from marijuana during all of waxing moon, and am not blindly believing       > > perineum click divination, though I still play at it.       >       > Find many ways to play, until all play everyday.       >       > At which point ya realize moving is dangerous ;)       >       > See the medication as a delay tactix from you yourself.       > Just to delay, and giev time to refine.       >       > From your other post where you state you will reduce medication;       > just like any other withdrawal;       > make sure to have a good rotation of towels going on, so you always have       > dry ones to sleep in.       >       > Sleeping and then sweating coz withdrawal is lousy, coz ya sleep bad,       > and get sick easily.       >       > So make sure to have enough towels to soak up, and drink lots of water,       > coz the body prolly needs to sweat out toxins.       >       > I only dabbled in psychofarmacology, but for pretty much all of them, it       > seems they are bad for you, and should only be taken if there is an       > actual need.       >       > Weaning off medication should be done as soon as possible.              I’m not going to risk it until I come out of the low years, though       it could be true that I won’t come out of the low years until       I risk it.              > What is your personal behavioral therapy like, seeing how you apprantly       > manage to keep a regimen, as a dude.              I don’t do any kind of therapy or meditation, unless you view       periods of perineum click divination as a form of meditation.       I used to do Iyengar yoga but haven’t in many years, but       may resume it soon.              >       > Are you perchance more of the man-loving variety of men ?              Huh? If you have read much of my writing you will know that       I am attracted to women, not men, and theorize that I am       compatible only with bisexual by nature women, and that       I have that in common with Krishna.              >       > I mean, keeping a schedule, let a lone a regimen, IT's like you are a       > star ;)              --       David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)       http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)       “I'm sick of sitting 'round here trying to write this book       I need a love reaction/Come on now baby gimme just one look" (B.S.)              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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