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   David Dalton to Bassos   
   Re: awakening/enlightenment   
   11 Nov 18 23:22:36   
   
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   XPost: alt.magick, alt.religion.druid, alt.religion.shamanism   
   XPost: alt.religion.orisha   
   From: dalton@nfld.com   
      
   On Nov 11, 2018, Bassos wrote   
   (in article<5be82202$0$26345$e4fe514c@newszilla.xs4all.nl>):   
      
   > On 9-11-2018 7:02, David Dalton wrote:   
   > > I have written a few times before of my hope that I will come out of my   
   > > low/wilderness years and achieve awakening/enlightenment, like the Buddha   
   > > did   
   > > at the end of his seven ascetic years.   
   >   
   > Hope is like a shovel; IT pushes things away.   
   > Clarity sees through all that.   
      
   Yes, I have pretty well given up on predicting my release.   
      
   > Science part:   
   > When a concept is presented into a form in the brain, the meditation is   
   > not done properly.   
   >   
   > A true clarity state should not measure at all.   
   > Effects of that state should though.   
   > Like rapid healing.   
   >   
   > > I have said that I expect this   
   > > awakening/enlightenment to consist of sustained productive creativity and   
   > > mental stability, allowing me to taper off my medication without   
   > > experiencing   
   > > adverse effects.   
   >   
   > Expectations ?   
   > This far in ?   
   > Is this more reflecting on what you said years ago ?   
      
   I haven’t changed what I am saying in many years now. Originally   
   I thought the low years would last three years, then seven, and   
   now I am at 22.78 years.   
      
   > > I think I have briefly come out of the low years twice before, once one   
   > > early   
   > > evening when I was visiting Vancouver in September 2004, and once one New   
   > > Year’s Eve a few years ago here in St. John’s.   
   >   
   > Twice clarity seems beauty hit ya hard.   
   >   
   > > In both cases I experienced a feeling of luminous clarity, and it wasn’t   
   > > similar to my   
   > > waning crescent highs.   
   >   
   > Did you experience rapid healing, as in being awake, not so much through   
   > increased testosterone/adrenaline but through 'waking up   
      
   Both those instances lasted only a few minutes. so no, I   
   did not experience rapid healing, though I felt more alive.   
      
   > Think the visual from dragon ball z, where piccolo is on namek and has   
   > just joined with Nail.   
   >   
   > "YES, i'm HOME, I'm alive, this is all a miracle, I'm awake, i'm wide awake"   
   >   
   > > I have three types of awakening so far:   
   > > 1. my waning crescent highs (inspiration/call)   
   > > 2. release from my waxing gibbous moon trials by full moon   
   > > 3. the above-mentioned two brief incidents.   
   > >   
   > > But anyway, while medication has eased my way, it seems that it has delayed   
   > > the final awakening/enlightenment since most past figures similar to me had   
   > > only seven years of low years, a few had 14 years, and I have gone 22.78   
   > > years so far. If an 11 year sunspot cycle variation holds, I might come out   
   > > of the low years 11 years after the 14 years, so 2.22 more years, or 22   
   > > years   
   > > after the 7 years, or 6.22 more years. But I hope it will be sooner than   
   > > 2.22   
   > > more years.   
   > >   
   > > However, note that while my low years were quite bad in 1996 and 1997,   
   these   
   > > days they are not very low except in terms of creativity while I am on my   
   > > current medication regimen of 1250 mg divalproex sodium and 7.5 mg of   
   > > olanzapine nightly and am abstaining from alcohol 1--9 days before full   
   moon   
   > > and from marijuana during all of waxing moon, and am not blindly believing   
   > > perineum click divination, though I still play at it.   
   >   
   > Find many ways to play, until all play everyday.   
   >   
   > At which point ya realize moving is dangerous ;)   
   >   
   > See the medication as a delay tactix from you yourself.   
   > Just to delay, and giev time to refine.   
   >   
   > From your other post where you state you will reduce medication;   
   > just like any other withdrawal;   
   > make sure to have a good rotation of towels going on, so you always have   
   > dry ones to sleep in.   
   >   
   > Sleeping and then sweating coz withdrawal is lousy, coz ya sleep bad,   
   > and get sick easily.   
   >   
   > So make sure to have enough towels to soak up, and drink lots of water,   
   > coz the body prolly needs to sweat out toxins.   
   >   
   > I only dabbled in psychofarmacology, but for pretty much all of them, it   
   > seems they are bad for you, and should only be taken if there is an   
   > actual need.   
   >   
   > Weaning off medication should be done as soon as possible.   
      
   I’m not going to risk it until I come out of the low years, though   
   it could be true that I won’t come out of the low years until   
   I risk it.   
      
   > What is your personal behavioral therapy like, seeing how you apprantly   
   > manage to keep a regimen, as a dude.   
      
   I don’t do any kind of therapy or meditation, unless you view   
   periods of perineum click divination as a form of meditation.   
   I used to do Iyengar yoga but haven’t in many years, but   
   may resume it soon.   
      
   >   
   > Are you perchance more of the man-loving variety of men ?   
      
   Huh? If you have read much of my writing you will know that   
   I am attracted to women, not men, and theorize that I am   
   compatible only with bisexual by nature women, and that   
   I have that in common with Krishna.   
      
   >   
   > I mean, keeping a schedule, let a lone a regimen, IT's like you are a   
   > star ;)   
      
   --   
   David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)   
   http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)   
   “I'm sick of sitting 'round here trying to write this book   
   I need a love reaction/Come on now baby gimme just one look" (B.S.)   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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