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|    Rob Woodward to All    |
|    Nathan Phillips Lied. The Media Bought I    |
|    22 Jan 19 21:43:26    |
      XPost: alt.news-media, sac.politics, alt.journalism.newspapers       XPost: alt.politics.republicans, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh       From: bwoodward@fakenews.cnn.com              There was far more than met the eye to the Covington Catholic story,       but that didn’t stop the popular press from vilifying its students.       If you’re in a public place and someone starts heckling you, are you       entitled to heckle back? How about if someone does something much       worse than heckling you in a public place? What if that person in fact       takes a drum up to you and starts banging it in your face? Are you       entitled to heckle back? How about smirking? Are you allowed to smirk?              I think you are, even if you’re wearing a MAGA hat. Even if you’re an       entitled brat. Even if you’re an entitled Catholic brat.              We’ll stipulate that the Catholic boys from a high school in Kentucky       were a little obnoxious when an indigenous man named Nathan Phillips       banged a drum at them in front of the Lincoln Memorial on Friday. But       Phillips was being a lot more obnoxious. To put it another way, if you       were minding your own business in a public place and someone came       right up to you and put a drum up to your face and made a huge racket       inches from your nose, would you be happy about it?              The kids from Covington Catholic High School in Covington, Ky., were       ambassadors for causes much bigger than themselves: Catholicism and       the right to life. As such, they should have comported themselves       better than to jeer and do a tomahawk chop in front of Phillips.       Ideally, the kids would have ignored him and walked away. Until about       ten minutes ago, it was broadly agreed in our culture that kids are       allowed to do some dumb things because they’re kids. Should these       kids’ lives be ruined because some of them responded to obnoxious       provocation by being a bit rude themselves? I’d say their reaction was       if anything more restrained than you would expect from teenagers. I’d       advise them to do better next time. I certainly wouldn’t consider       expulsion.              Phillips, on the other hand, is an adult, and he repeatedly lied about       what happened to the Washington Post, which was utterly taken in by       him and reported everything he said uncritically.              It would have been revolting if Nathan Phillips had been minding his       own business doing a tribal chant while a gang of kids swarmed around       him and started jeering. That’s what many media outlets reported:       “Boys in ‘Make America Great Again’ Hats Mob Native Elder at       Indigenous Peoples March,” ran a New York Times headline over a story       that said “a throng of cheering and jeering high school boys” were       “surrounding a Native American elder.”              That isn’t what happened. Phillips was the aggressor in the situation.       It’s a curious feature of our culture that people aggressively seek to       be victimized, go out of their way in hopes of getting punched in the       face, but here we are. People do that because they know the media hand       out condemnation based on perceived ranking in the victim hierarchy.       “Old Ypsilanti man” is near the top, while “privileged-looking young       white male probable heterosexual in a MAGA cap” is the absolute       bottom. The surface appeal of the story short-circuited the reporters’       brains to such a degree that they failed to perform basic tasks such       as asking the people they were accusing for their version of events.       The Times and other outlets had zero evidence that a “mob”       “surrounded” Phillips, except a claim of Phillips that he has since       backed away from.              Phillips has on at least one other occasion gotten himself into what       he says was a racist altercation with a group of youths. This one,       four years ago, also involved him approaching others, in this case a       group of college students. (“Why did Phillips go over to the fence?       Why not just walk away?” wondered a reporter. “For me just to walk by       and have a blind eye to it,” Phillips said. “Something just didn’t       allow me to do it.”)              Friday he waded into a group of Covington students, evidently hoping       to troll a response out of them suitable for a viral video. According       to the Washington Post, Phillips, 64, said that he felt threatened by       the teens and that they swarmed around him as he and other activists       were wrapping up the march and preparing to leave. This is a lie. They       didn’t swarm around him. He strolled right into the middle of their       group:                     Matthew Schmitz       ?       @matthewschmitz        · Jan 19, 2019       Replying to @matthewschmitz       Given that people are calling for the firing of a priest and the       expulsion of students, I hope that the celebrity priests and media       Catholics who expressed judgments on the basis of less evidence will       speak out again if more evidence suggests that things were not so       clear-cut.                     Matthew Schmitz       ?       @matthewschmitz       Here is a video clearly showing that Nathan Phillips approached the       students. On the basis of the evidence we now have, I believe that       people who issued categorical and one-sided condemnations of the       students should retract and apologize. pic.twitter.com/GxmXcMuQgC              14.3K       6:29 AM - Jan 20, 2019       Twitter Ads info and privacy        Embedded video       9,224 people are talking about this       Phillips then pivoted to a completely different version of his story       with the Detroit Free Press, in which he admitted that he approached       the students, not the other way around. His interviews and the various       videos of the incident paint a picture of him saying he is a)       terrified of the Catholic students yet b) walking right up to and into       their group; a) doing his best to leave yet b) pressing forward       insistently; a) trying to go up the steps of the Lincoln Memorial yet       b) not noticing that there is a clear path up those steps       approximately ten feet to his right.              Phillips, who claims to be a former Marine and a Vietnam veteran, told       the Free Press the Covington kids “were in the process of attacking       these four black individuals. I was there and I was witnessing all of       this. . . . As this kept on going on and escalating, it just got to a       point where you do something or you walk away, you know? You see       something that is wrong and you’re faced with that choice of right or       wrong.”              Because naturally, when you see a group of individuals “attacking”       another group in a public place where there are lots of police, the       proper response when you’re a 64-year-old man is not to inform a cop       but to take charge of the situation yourself. Go up to the       “attackers,” stand toe to toe with one of them and start loudly       banging a drum in his face. This is a known mollification technique       and it absolutely can never fail to defuse tensions. However, if it       does fail, what you should do is move the drum even closer to the       other person’s face, so it’s just a few inches from the guy’s ears,       and keep banging away for several more minutes.                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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