XPost: soc.culture.jewish, alt.politics.socialism   
   From: joshb@xs4all.nl   
      
   The Collapse is here, this is it. It seems certain, it has become self   
   evident. The Coronavirus isn't the collapse in and of itself, but it   
   seems to be a facet of the broader collapse. Obviously these are   
   guesses, undersigned is not part of the criminals doing all these   
   things.   
      
   What is still not self evident is that this virus is merely going to be   
   the leading edge of a whole world of hurt which is going to be hitting   
   mankind. It seems that the reports about the stock market are that it is   
   crashing, but then being propped up by astronomical money printing. This   
   is claimed (by people who seem honest) to then bring all this ownership   
   power into the hands of those who print the money to buy all these   
   ownership papers with the newly printed money that they control. The   
   consequence is a tsunami of money, which eventually should lead to   
   inflation.   
      
   It seems that this virus has the ability to kill about 1%-3% of the whole   
   population, and put 10% - 18% in a hospital bed. That is bad, it is a   
   great shock. It is not nearly as bad as the Black Death, which killed 50%   
   of the population in several waves.  It is also not comparable to the flu,   
   as the lying media claims (the flu only reaches 6% of the population,   
   and has a case fatality rate of less than 0.1% acc. Wikipedia: it kills   
   some 0.06% of the entire population per year.)  The actions in China   
   and now Italy speak for themselves. So do the criminal activities   
   of western Governments, health departments and fraudulent media, who   
   seem to want to virus to spread by giving false information.   
      
   You better had prepared already. If you still haven't, not much time is   
   left to do it.   
      
    - Moral preparation is most important, you should always do what   
      is good, and improve any bad habits you may have.   
      
    If that's all you do, I still wish you good luck ! Nothing else really   
    matters. But still you want to survive, and that too is a good thing   
    for good people.   
      
    - Social preparation: make friends, reduce the enemy list. It's not   
      a great thing to have a lot of enemies and few friends, when times   
      get difficult.   
      
    - Physical survival: I figure there is 4 ways to think about that.   
      a) How did our ancestors live, the further back in time you can   
         live like they did, the better your chances, because if the   
         system goes down it is like time reverts back to the past.   
      b) The rule of 3s of your body needs. You can survive like 3 seconds   
         with your body exploded, 3 minutes without oxygen, 3 hours in   
         the worst weather, 3 days without water, 3 weeks without food,   
         3 months without some sort of shelter etc. Maybe 3 years from   
         food supplies but then you need to either farm or hunt/gather   
         Sortof. It gives some idea about what is important in the short   
         to long term.   
      c) What do you need on a (long) hiking vacation. Tents, fire, etc.   
      d) How do (extremely) poor people live, how do people in extremely   
         poor Nations live, etc.   
      If you can do all of these, and have practiced, chances seem good   
      that are you have as good a chance to survive as you could manufacture.   
      
    - Political survival: Then we got the whole issue of rebuilding   
      society, and getting rid of the criminals. One important thing to   
      get right is to understand that every person has an inalienable right   
      to his / her share of the natural resources (land). The land cannot   
      be sold, it should be forbidden to sell land. Then it is necessary   
      to have some sort of representative common decision making process,   
      reasonable laws, and a process to deal with law breakers, etc.   
      For some better people this can be fairly simple, for not so good   
      people it might need to be more elaborate and detailed (?).   
      
      For the not so advanced people, such as the European Nations (which   
      includes Latin America and the USA subcultures), I put together a   
      rather detailed system (free on website). It also comes with a system   
      of how to implement it, which is also detailed and multi facetted.   
      I doubt that the European peoples are capable of this system in its   
      entirity, but some parts may succeed, and maybe more after time has   
      passed.   
      
      Some better behaved peoples, whoever they are (not sure!), the   
      system(s) proposed might still be interesting to think about. They   
      also come in simplified versions. There is a version with only 7   
      laws, a version with 50 laws, one with 239 laws, and then one that   
      adds some 25 ammendments to expand on it.   
      
      There are 4 principles proposed here:   
      1. A seriously democratic system: groups of 50 people elect a   
         delegate, whom they can replace any moment. These delegates form   
         councils with 50 persons minimum. If the council get very large,   
         they can divide out into a minimum of 10 sectors, or (better)   
         again 50 sectors. Each sector of elected delegates appoints   
         someone to stand for them, whom they can again immediately   
         replace.   
      
         The ordinary people voting circle of 50, as well as the   
         councils, can divide in groups of 10 to debate things (this is   
         of course open to whatever you want, but it seems to be an   
         effective strategy, which is inspired by the Haudenosaunee   
         Confederacy). It is important to make people speak who should   
         speak, and many do that easier in a group of 10 rather than 50. It   
         also helps to divide into smaller groups, to keep shouting and   
         domineering people under control. It fractures their power. The   
         small groups also stimulate a slower Governing process, as smaller   
         groups bend themselves over what another small group is proposing   
         to them.   
      
      2. The businesses or production groups which are created, should   
         become co-operatives (mini democracies) once the starter leaves,   
         if they have not been founded as a co-op from the start. Only   
         small businesses with less than 10 persons are exempt.   
      
      3. The financial system should not get out of control, and neither   
         should the wealthy. There should be a maximum on wealth (I propose   
         a quite high 30 times average). Loans should not be made on   
         profit, except for co-operative businesses, and generally be   
         limited. Once again I propose to make a professional lender   
         business community ... illegal. Once again we have seen how they   
         have the power to ruin everything (their games have been made   
         illegal before in history, it always ends up with a reaction to   
         their shenanigans being that their games are made illegal, and now   
         we are at that point again.)   
      
      4. Last but not least: everyone should be given their share of the   
         natural resources. The needs of nature should be subtracted from   
      
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