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   Message 29,223 of 29,288   
   David Dalton to All   
   Re: Haida Raven and the First Men figure   
   07 Dec 24 05:06:30   
   
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   XPost: soc.culture.native, alt.culture.inuit, alt.religion.shamanism   
   XPost: bc.general, alt.culture.alaska   
   From: dalton@nfld.com   
      
   On Dec 5, 2024, David Dalton wrote   
   (in article<0001HW.2D0164AA0017EEC6700001E7538F@news.eternal-september.org>):   
      
   > The Haida Raven and the First Men figure popthrough   
   > was applied at 0424 UTC Dec. 5.   
      
   That wasn’t true.   
      
   December 6, 2024. To get UTC add 3.5 hours.   
   (St. Nicholas Day/National Day of Remembrance and Action   
   on Violence Against Women)   
      
   Here is a summary of some of the popthroughs that have   
   been applied so far, with (*) marking indigenous ones.   
      
   The recent 52 from 8:32 -->  9:33 p.m. (including some cetaceans)   
      
   Then remaining by decreasing number of someones covered   
   (by belief, being in original region, or by descent):   
      
   53 (Jacob) 9:46 p.m.   
   54 (Jesus) 9:59 p.m.   
   55 (Moses) 10:11 p.m.   
   56 (Mohammed) 10:20 p.m.   
   57 (Rama) 10:28 p.m.   
   58 (Krishna) 10:36 p.m.   
   59 (humpback of about 9000 years ago) 10:45 p.m.   
   72 (Buddha) 11:46 p.m.   
      
   December 7, 2024   
      
   Lao Tzu 12:54 a.m.   
   original Sleeping Beauty hero 1:40 a.m. (~4900 years ago)   
   Osiris 1:54 a.m.   
   Dionysus 2:23 a.m.   
   Hermes 2:27 a.m.   
   Prometheus (about 9300 years ago) 2:38 a.m.   
   Adonis 2:42 a.m.   
   Zoroaster 2:44 a.m.   
   Apollo (about 8200 years ago) 2:47 a.m.   
   Goibniu (or Govannon) 2:53 a.m.   
   Lucifer 3:15 a.m.   
   Loki 3:30 a.m.   
   (*) Quetzalcoatl 3:36 a.m.   
   Havamal composer 3:48 a.m.   
   Lleu/Lugh/Lugus 3:51 a.m.   
   Heracles 4:05 a.m.   
   Gwydion (Odin?) 4:15 a.m.   
   Fintan 4:41 a.m.   
   (*) Glooskap 4:52 a.m.   
   Amergin 4:57 a.m.   
   (*) Haida Raven and the First Men figure 4:59 a.m.   
      
   There are many yet to come, and of course I don’t yet   
   know all of their names (1768, including many cetaceans,   
   in the last 10,000 years).   
      
   Of the recent 52, the one whose hcp sub covered the most   
   someones was Tsangyang Gyatso (but I highly doubt that   
   he died at age 23), and the one with the largest original   
   region was a minke whale.   
      
   For atheists, the religious big names did not override   
   the recent 52 if there was a conflict. (And my post-popthroughs   
   updates will override any popthrough if there is a conflict.)   
      
   For more background see my Salmon on the Thorns web page.   
   For recent and ongoing progress see alt.religion.druid .   
      
   --   
   David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)   
   https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)   
   “And now the angry morning; Gives the early signs of warning; You must   
   face alone the plans you make; Decisions they will try to break" (S. McL.)   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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