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   danijel to Irene Andersson   
   Re: Winter mushrooms from the "old" coun   
   11 Jan 06 23:07:35   
   
   From: dbalasko@foi.hr   
      
   On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:44:56 +0100, Irene Andersson  wrote:   
      
   >I'm not very familiar with species that normally are growing with   
   >beech, but was thinking of that too, for the collection in pic 2.   
   >But the small and slimy-looking one at the bottom, could be   
   >Hygrophorus lindtneri (growing with Carpinus and Corylus).   
   >   
   >In the picture to the left, I get a feeling it is a third species.   
   >They look big enough to be H. penarius/barbatulus (beech/oak?).   
   >What do you think, Danijel? You have seen more of those than I have..   
      
      
   I am not sure that the same waxy caps are at the picture 1 and 2. But,   
   they could be very easily.   
      
   At the picture two I think that they are all the same species, even   
   the smallest one. They are slimy-looking because of wet conditions (   
   you could see that the biggest is also slimy at the centre). I was   
   also finding very similar waxy caps to that in the picture 2 - very   
   rare at my place, but I know three locations were they grow. And   
   always with oaks (at one place only oaks!). I think that they are   
   Hygrophorus arbustivus. Italian author Giussepe Pace calls them Oak   
   wax-cap, and also Courtecuisse writes that they grow with beech and   
   oak.   
   H. lindtneri is more slimy (even in dry conditions) and grows with   
   Carpinus. I was also finding waxy caps that could be H. lindtneri   
   (=carpini=leucophaeus). They are smaller than those H. arbustivus I   
   finding and brighter ochraceous (at the centre more tawny).  Also   
   gills are not white, but ochraceous creamy. It is confusing because at   
   Index fungorum they are all  the same species - H. lindtneri   
   =carpini=leucophaeus, and Courtecuisse distinguish them as separate   
   species. H. carpini and lindtneri very slimy, but H. leucophaeus not   
   slimy.   
      
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